Ep - 104 The Canceled Game Conundrum! (Part 1)

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On this weeks episode of RetroLogic Sam and John are joined by none other than the Two Dollar Hero himself to talk about what could have been! Canceled games (Part1) The RetroLogic crew goes through history pulling out all the canceled games they wish would have went gold!

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Show Topics

Canceled Games we wish we could play (or at least see finished)

Mario Motors

3ds

Yutaka “Yoot” Saito (Odama, Seaman, SimTower, Aeroporter) revealed its canceled development at 2018’s Reboot Develop conference. Based on Yoot’s latest hobby of sculpting chunks of metal and him chatting about it with Shigeru Miyamoto and Satoru Iwata

Saito could not give a reason why the game was canceled.

-Game was based around the concept of building engines by shaving and sculpting chunks of metal.

-at one point intended to blow into DS microphone (because YS loves microphones)

-Unclear if you would actually ever race using these engines

-only two characters confirmed in concept art, Mario (duh) and an elderly scientist (no, not E. Gadd)

Super Mario Spikers

Wii

-volleyball-wrestling hybrid sport game to be developed by Next Level games team responsible for Mario Strikers games

-carried over experience from the also canceled WWE Titans: parts unknown (the same team worked on it and really didn’t want these ideas to go to waste

-WWE parts unknwn itself is super interesting: crazy stylized take on pro wrestling, featuring fantastic environments and the ability to wrestle bears, crocodiles, sorcerers, etc.

- Nintendo felt the violence in the game was too realistic for something featuring mario’s characters

Other Picks:

Mega Man Universe

Mega Man ZX3/ZXC

Scalebound

Prey 2

Phantom Dust Reboot

Jade Empire 2

NES

Aliens (based on the film,Famicom disk system, Square developed, run n’ gun action platformer

Sunman (Sunsoft attempted rebrand of Superman game, plays like their batman games, mostly complete)

Gamecube:

Casualties of Microsoft’s Acquisition of Rare

DK64 sequel on gamecube

Banjo 3 on gamecube (kinda retooled to nuts & bolts eventually)

Diddy Kong Pilot (was eventually released as banjo pilot)

Diddy Kong Racing Adventure (oddly enough started at another studio before moving to rare and then getting axed)

Perfect dark zero

Rare was also working with microsoft on a monster hunter-like game at some point. Concept art:

Kirby Tilt n’ tumble 2

Untitled earthbound game (developed by Baten Kaitos team of Monolith Soft) possibly a remake?

Raven Blade (RPG by Retro canceled so they could make Metroid Prime)

Thunder Rally (another retro project, car combat game intended to compete with Twisted Metal)

The Wii Vitality Sensor

Project H.A.M.M.E.R : beat ‘em up set in future USA, as a robot with a giant hammer, used motion controls. Intended to integrate wii motionplus at some point. Troubled development ended with a team with low morale making accusations against the management

Turrican 3D

Starcraft Ghost

Varuna’s Forces: (developed by accent media, published by atari), planned for Jaguar CD, 3DO, dreamcast, Saturn, PC) hybrid Third person shooter/strategy game with on-rail shooter segments. (couldn’t get a break on those platforms folding.

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