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Turn Your Real Estate into a Tax-Saving Machine with Cost Segregation - Jonathan Frizzell

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Episode Summary

In this powerhouse reunion episode, Nicholas Cook sits down again with cost segregation legend Jonathan Frizzell (Kevel & Kevel) to break down the brand-new tax legislation (the “Big Beautiful Bill”) that just made 100% bonus depreciation permanent starting January 19, 2025 — and why every rental property investor needs to act on it now.

Jonathan explains in plain English how cost segregation accelerates depreciation (reclassifying assets into 5- and 15-year lives instead of 27.5 or 39 years), how the new law supercharges that strategy, and real-world examples of turning $1M of basis into $70K–$100K+ of Year-1 tax savings — or more.

If you own rentals, multifamily, self-storage, short-term rentals, or commercial property, this episode is your roadmap to legally lower taxes, boost cash flow, and retire faster.


Key Timestamps

00:00 – Intro & Jonathan’s 19-year cost seg journey
03:20 – Cost segregation explained simply (5-, 15-, 27.5-, 39-year property)
06:45 – Typical reclassification percentages by property type (multifamily 27-35%, self-storage 30-45%+)
09:10 – Rule-of-thumb savings: ~7-10% of basis in Year-1 cash back
12:30 – How a cost segregation study actually works (on-site visits, engineers, hundreds of line items)
18:40 – Bonus depreciation history & why the new “Big Beautiful Bill” is a game-changer
22:15 – 100% bonus depreciation is now PERMANENT (retroactive to acquisitions after Jan 19, 2025)
28:50 – Look-back (catch-up) studies on properties you already own
32:10 – Cost segregation as an asset-management tool (retire old roofs/HVAC, partial asset dispositions)
38:20 – Using cost seg in estate planning (step-up in basis + no recapture at death)
44:30 – Lightning round with Jonathan (favorite steak, COVID lessons, travel bucket list)


Key Takeaways & Action Items

  • 100% bonus depreciation is now permanent law – no more phase-out (80/60/40/20)
  • Any property placed in service after January 19, 2025 qualifies for 100% write-off on 5- & 15-year assets
  • Typical study cost: $5,000–$10,000 and almost always pays for itself many times over
  • Don’t forget “look-back” studies on properties you’ve owned for years — huge missed opportunity
  • Soft costs (architect, engineering, permits) get the exact same accelerated treatment as hard costs
  • Cost seg + bonus depreciation = massive cash flow to pay down debt, buy more properties, or retire earlier
  • Estate-planning bonus: keep cost-segging until you pass — heirs get stepped-up basis with zero depreciation recapture


Guest Bio – Jonathan Frizzell

Jonathan is a principal at Kevel & Kevel, one of the longest-standing boutique cost segregation firms in the U.S. With 19 years and thousands of studies under his belt, he works nationwide with single-family investors, multifamily syndicators, self-storage owners, and commercial landlords to legally minimize taxes through accelerated depreciation and bonus depreciation strategies.


Connect with Jonathan

Email: [email protected]
Website: kevel.com


Resources Mentioned

  • Kevel & Kevel – kevel.com
  • SleepSound Property Management – sleepsoundpm.com
  • TimeShifter jet-lag app (Nicholas’s travel hack)
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Content provided by Nicholas Cook. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Nicholas Cook or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://podcastplayer.com/legal.

Episode Summary

In this powerhouse reunion episode, Nicholas Cook sits down again with cost segregation legend Jonathan Frizzell (Kevel & Kevel) to break down the brand-new tax legislation (the “Big Beautiful Bill”) that just made 100% bonus depreciation permanent starting January 19, 2025 — and why every rental property investor needs to act on it now.

Jonathan explains in plain English how cost segregation accelerates depreciation (reclassifying assets into 5- and 15-year lives instead of 27.5 or 39 years), how the new law supercharges that strategy, and real-world examples of turning $1M of basis into $70K–$100K+ of Year-1 tax savings — or more.

If you own rentals, multifamily, self-storage, short-term rentals, or commercial property, this episode is your roadmap to legally lower taxes, boost cash flow, and retire faster.


Key Timestamps

00:00 – Intro & Jonathan’s 19-year cost seg journey
03:20 – Cost segregation explained simply (5-, 15-, 27.5-, 39-year property)
06:45 – Typical reclassification percentages by property type (multifamily 27-35%, self-storage 30-45%+)
09:10 – Rule-of-thumb savings: ~7-10% of basis in Year-1 cash back
12:30 – How a cost segregation study actually works (on-site visits, engineers, hundreds of line items)
18:40 – Bonus depreciation history & why the new “Big Beautiful Bill” is a game-changer
22:15 – 100% bonus depreciation is now PERMANENT (retroactive to acquisitions after Jan 19, 2025)
28:50 – Look-back (catch-up) studies on properties you already own
32:10 – Cost segregation as an asset-management tool (retire old roofs/HVAC, partial asset dispositions)
38:20 – Using cost seg in estate planning (step-up in basis + no recapture at death)
44:30 – Lightning round with Jonathan (favorite steak, COVID lessons, travel bucket list)


Key Takeaways & Action Items

  • 100% bonus depreciation is now permanent law – no more phase-out (80/60/40/20)
  • Any property placed in service after January 19, 2025 qualifies for 100% write-off on 5- & 15-year assets
  • Typical study cost: $5,000–$10,000 and almost always pays for itself many times over
  • Don’t forget “look-back” studies on properties you’ve owned for years — huge missed opportunity
  • Soft costs (architect, engineering, permits) get the exact same accelerated treatment as hard costs
  • Cost seg + bonus depreciation = massive cash flow to pay down debt, buy more properties, or retire earlier
  • Estate-planning bonus: keep cost-segging until you pass — heirs get stepped-up basis with zero depreciation recapture


Guest Bio – Jonathan Frizzell

Jonathan is a principal at Kevel & Kevel, one of the longest-standing boutique cost segregation firms in the U.S. With 19 years and thousands of studies under his belt, he works nationwide with single-family investors, multifamily syndicators, self-storage owners, and commercial landlords to legally minimize taxes through accelerated depreciation and bonus depreciation strategies.


Connect with Jonathan

Email: [email protected]
Website: kevel.com


Resources Mentioned

  • Kevel & Kevel – kevel.com
  • SleepSound Property Management – sleepsoundpm.com
  • TimeShifter jet-lag app (Nicholas’s travel hack)
  continue reading

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