Rediscovering the Bible's Grand Narrative: A Conversation with Randy Frazee

Refining Rhetoric with Robert Bortins

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What if everything you thought you knew about the Bible's structure was making it harder to understand God's story? Pastor, author, and Bible engagement architect Randy Frazee joins host Robert on Refining Rhetoric to discuss why so many Christians—even those in Bible-believing churches—can't articulate the basic narrative of Scripture. The problem isn't a lack of commitment; it's how the Bible is organized.

In this episode, you'll discover:

· Why chronological Bible reading changes everything (and how The Story makes it accessible)
· What really happens after you die—and why most Christians have it backwards
· The surprising biblical truth: heaven isn't the final destination (hint: read Revelation 21-22)
· Why the Garden of Eden matters for understanding eternity on the new earth
· How Paul wrote the ultimate treatise on joy... from prison
· The neuroscience that validates ancient biblical wisdom about depression and anxiety
· Why gratitude is the #1 weapon against worry (backed by both Philippians and brain science)
· The loneliness epidemic destroying Americans—and how proximity creates real community
· Practical ways homeschoolers can combat isolation and build deeper connections

Randy brings decades of pastoral wisdom, research-backed insights, and a refreshing perspective on biblical literacy. From explaining why Psalm 51 should be read right after 2 Samuel 11 (David's confession after his fall with Bathsheba) to unpacking why we'll still struggle at golf in the new kingdom (yes, really), this conversation bridges ancient truth and modern science.

This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by:

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