92. The Fight to End FGM Part 1: The Vavengers CEO Sema Gornall and FGM Survivor and Activist Mam Lisa Camara
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In this powerful first episode of a two-part series, Rebel Justice speaks with Sema Gornall, CEO of The Vavengers, and Mam Lisa Camara, a Gambian women’s rights activist and survivor of female genital mutilation (FGM).
The Vavengers are a survivor-led organisation using advocacy, art, and community mobilisation to end FGM and gender-based violence. Sema shares the organisation’s origins, the challenges survivors face in the UK, and how grassroots activism is shaping policy and awareness across communities.
Lisa brings insight from her decades of advocacy in The Gambia, working to challenge religious and cultural misconceptions and empower young women to use their voices through community education and empowerment-based self-defence.
Together, they explore the global scale of FGM, the intersection of culture, gender, and justice, and what survivor-centred change truly looks like.
Next week, in part two, the discussion continues with Max Hill KC, as we look at the legal frameworks, international advocacy and the UN debut of the worlds first global dataset on FGM.
Useful Links
https://thevavengers.co.uk/global-landscape-report
https://awra-group.org/en/
https://www.dahliaproject.org/
Credits
Guests: Sema Gornall & Mam Lisa Camara
Producers: Charlotte Janes & Nico Rivosecchi
Soundtrack: Particles (Revo Main Version) by [Coma-Media]
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Chapters
1. Framing Justice And Lived Experience (00:00:00)
2. Introducing The Vavengers And Guests (00:01:01)
3. What FGM Is And Why It Persists (00:02:52)
4. Origins And Impact Of The Revengers (00:04:29)
5. Lisa’s Story And Activism In Gambia (00:09:02)
6. Empowerment-Based Self-Defence Model (00:11:22)
7. Religion, Pushback, And Community Shifts (00:12:44)
8. Misconceptions And Diaspora Engagement (00:14:08)
9. Practical Support: Housing, Legal, Immigration (00:16:03)
10. Training Gaps For Frontline Services (00:18:07)
11. Healthcare Failures And Needed Care (00:19:15)
12. Data, Next Steps, And How To Support (00:22:00)
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