What does it take to transform one of the world’s iconic financial institutions into a workplace fit for the future?

In this episode of Purpose of Place, Despina Katsikakis speaks with Vivienne Grafton, Executive Director for Central Operations at the Bank of England. Drawing on her extensive leadership experience at HSBC and Barclays, Vivienne shares how she is helping the Bank of England evolve its estate—balancing legacy and symbolism with flexibility, sustainability, and meeting the expectations of a modern workforce.

Vivienne discusses the Bank’s approach to placemaking, experience-led design, and the challenges of modernizing a Grade I listed building in the heart of London. She also explores how second-tier cities like Leeds play a role in talent strategy, and why real estate leaders must move from order-takers to strategic business partners.

Tune in for insights on connecting place to purpose, and leading change in the public sector at a moment of transformation for the industry.