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EP319 - Why Red Flags Matter in Client Selection ft Kat Sale
Manage episode 485524088 series 2434262
In this episode of PPC Live The Podcast, host Anu interviews Kat Sale, co-founder of House of Performance, about a catastrophic client experience that serves as a cautionary tale for agency professionals. Kat shares how a gifting company client spent £40,000 in just three days with zero sales, despite her team's explicit warnings against their aggressive launch strategy. The situation escalated when the client refused to pay £12,500 in consultancy fees, forcing Kat to write off the loss and end the relationship.
Key takeaway discussed:
Key Takeaways
- "Eat the dog food" - Always test and understand your client's products before marketing them
- Red flags to avoid: Clients who speak poorly about their own team, have churned through multiple agencies quickly, or consistently ignore expert advice
- Don't launch on Fridays unless you'll monitor campaigns over the weekend
- Start conservative: Begin with exact match keywords and modest budgets, then scale based on performance
- Cut losses quickly - Don't waste time chasing bad debts or difficult clients; focus energy on good relationships
- Document everything - Keep clear records of advice given when clients ignore recommendations
- Don't take failures personally - Sometimes clients aren't ready to listen, and that's not your fault
- Be transparent with mistakes - Clients appreciate honesty; cover-ups destroy trust
- Use AI as a tool, not a crutch - Maintain strategic thinking and creativity rather than relying completely on AI
- Create psychological safety - Leaders should share their own failures to normalise learning from mistakes
- Know when to walk away - Some clients aren't worth the stress and damage to your business
- Maintain perspective - "We're not heart surgeons, it's just advertising" - don't let work stress destroy your mental health
00:00 Introduction
01:31 Kat Sale's Background
02:48 The Concept of 'Eating the Dog Food'
04:43 Major Business Failure and Learnings
22:43 Discussion on AI in Digital Marketing
28:03 Conclusion and Where to Find Kat Sale
Follow Kat on LinkedIn
Book a coaching call with Anu
PPC Live The Podcast (formerly PPCChat Roundup) features weekly conversations with paid search experts sharing their experiences, challenges, and triumphs in the ever-changing digital marketing landscape.
The next PPC Live event is on June 26th in Leeds, UK
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314 episodes
Manage episode 485524088 series 2434262
In this episode of PPC Live The Podcast, host Anu interviews Kat Sale, co-founder of House of Performance, about a catastrophic client experience that serves as a cautionary tale for agency professionals. Kat shares how a gifting company client spent £40,000 in just three days with zero sales, despite her team's explicit warnings against their aggressive launch strategy. The situation escalated when the client refused to pay £12,500 in consultancy fees, forcing Kat to write off the loss and end the relationship.
Key takeaway discussed:
Key Takeaways
- "Eat the dog food" - Always test and understand your client's products before marketing them
- Red flags to avoid: Clients who speak poorly about their own team, have churned through multiple agencies quickly, or consistently ignore expert advice
- Don't launch on Fridays unless you'll monitor campaigns over the weekend
- Start conservative: Begin with exact match keywords and modest budgets, then scale based on performance
- Cut losses quickly - Don't waste time chasing bad debts or difficult clients; focus energy on good relationships
- Document everything - Keep clear records of advice given when clients ignore recommendations
- Don't take failures personally - Sometimes clients aren't ready to listen, and that's not your fault
- Be transparent with mistakes - Clients appreciate honesty; cover-ups destroy trust
- Use AI as a tool, not a crutch - Maintain strategic thinking and creativity rather than relying completely on AI
- Create psychological safety - Leaders should share their own failures to normalise learning from mistakes
- Know when to walk away - Some clients aren't worth the stress and damage to your business
- Maintain perspective - "We're not heart surgeons, it's just advertising" - don't let work stress destroy your mental health
00:00 Introduction
01:31 Kat Sale's Background
02:48 The Concept of 'Eating the Dog Food'
04:43 Major Business Failure and Learnings
22:43 Discussion on AI in Digital Marketing
28:03 Conclusion and Where to Find Kat Sale
Follow Kat on LinkedIn
Book a coaching call with Anu
PPC Live The Podcast (formerly PPCChat Roundup) features weekly conversations with paid search experts sharing their experiences, challenges, and triumphs in the ever-changing digital marketing landscape.
The next PPC Live event is on June 26th in Leeds, UK
Follow us on LinkedIn
Follow us on Twitter
Join our WhatsApp Group
Subscribe to our Newsletter
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