What can podcasters learn from one of the biggest celebrity shows on the planet? While Marc is traveling, guest host Jonathan Howard takes the wheel to lead the PMC crew in a conversation about SmartLess, the hit podcast hosted by Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett.

We analyze clips to uncover why the show’s mystery-guest format works, how its chemistry keeps listeners hooked, and what independent creators can borrow from its “organized chaos.” We also discuss techniques for making guests feel at ease, building genuine connections, and balancing structure with spontaneity.

Episode Highlights:

[03:29] Smartless Format and Julia Roberts Clip

[10:17] Adding Surprise Elements to Podcasts

[14:25] Chemistry Among Hosts

[21:38] Creating a Comfortable Environment for Guests

[24:44] Balancing Professionalism and Authenticity

[26:45] Messiness in Podcasts

[34:19] Lessons from Smartless

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