In this episode of the Plain Speech Podcast, host Michael Clary is joined by David Schrock. They discuss the importance of investing in young men for leadership roles within the local church, practical steps for pastoral training, and the potential pitfalls and strategies for theological education. David Schrock, also a keynote speaker for the upcoming King's Domain Conference on 'Future Proof Christianity,' shares insights on the current challenges and opportunities for young men entering ministry today. The conversation also delves into the history and current controversies surrounding the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC) and what reforms might be necessary. Tune in for an enlightening discussion on raising future leaders and ensuring they are well-equipped for the challenges ahead.

00:00 Introduction and Small Beginnings

00:22 Meet the Hosts: Michael Clary and David Schrock

00:45 Raising Future Leaders in the Church

01:47 The Impact of the Negative World

11:25 The Role of Seminary Training

14:48 The Importance of Embodied Learning

24:45 Pastoral Training Programs

31:16 Strengths and Weaknesses of Seminary Education

33:35 The Role of Local Churches in Pastoral Training

35:55 Balancing Seminary and Local Church Training

37:26 Indianapolis Theological Seminary: A Model for the Future

44:14 Challenges and Solutions for Rural Pastoral Training

48:46 Addressing Theological Errors in the Church

52:54 The Business of Isness: A New Book

55:46 Christ Over All and the ERLC

01:00:58 Upcoming Conference and Final Thoughts