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Is there a better way to score pipe band competitions?

This week, Andrew and Jim look at an unlikely comparison for inspiration: gymnastics. From artistic vs. objective elements, to the challenge of ranking large fields fairly, to the ever-present issue of bias, the guys explore what the world of sports can teach us about how pipe bands are judged. What makes a fair system? Should pipe bands stick to ordinal rankings? Would point-based scoring bring more consistency? And how do we balance tradition with the need for innovation?

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Here’s what we cover this week:

00:00 – Andrew’s secret gymnastics passion revealed
01:32 – Jim’s school days and flexibility struggles
03:00 – Comparing movement and body types
04:50 – The basics of gymnastics events and routines
06:00 – Artistic vs. objective elements in gymnastics
07:15 – How gymnastics is scored: D and E panels explained
10:00 – The challenge of making subjective performances objective
12:00 – Pipe band scoring vs. gymnastics scoring
14:00 – Why not just rank gymnasts? The case for point-based systems
16:00 – The problem with ordinal ranking in pipe bands
18:00 – Handling ties, large fields, and the importance of standardization
20:00 – The “big three” for judging bagpipe performances: sound, technique, musicality
23:00 – The complexity of creating a fair, repeatable rubric
25:00 – Bias, recency, and the human side of judging
28:00 – The need for more judges and the realities of competition logistics
31:00 – The importance of strong, sustainable institutions
34:00 – Innovation vs. tradition in competition systems
36:00 – Final thoughts

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