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How to Win Clients When Everyone’s Using the Same AI

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Episode Summary

Would you trust AI to help close a multi-million dollar acquisition? That’s exactly what Deeligence is helping lawyers do faster and with fewer headaches.

In this episode of Pick My Brain, Elena Tsalanidis, co-founder of Deeligence joins Alan Jones to pitch her AI-powered legal tech startup. Elena shares how her platform streamlines the M&A due diligence process for lawyers, cutting review time in half while delivering greater accuracy.

Alan and Elena dive deep into B2B SaaS sales strategy, how to stand out in a sea of AI wrappers, and what actually makes a startup defensible when everyone’s using the same language models. They explore how founders can navigate complex enterprise sales cycles, why law firms resist change, and how product distribution (not tech) is the real moat.

If you’re building in legal tech, enterprise AI, or B2B SaaS, you’ll want to take notes.

Time Stamps

01:40 – What is Deeligence? AI-powered legal due diligence for M&A lawyers

03:05 – Elena’s background: ex-lawyer, ex-legal tech startup operator

04:15 – Childhood ambitions: politics, drill sergeant energy, and leadership

06:00 – The challenge: how do AI startups prove real product differentiation?

08:30 – Alan on “thin wrappers” vs customer experience as a moat

10:10 – Building trust in professional services: security, UX, and reliability

11:40 – Why distribution beats tech in B2B AI

14:10 – What makes a moat in the era of fast, AI-powered software

16:05 – How deal size affects sales cycles in enterprise SaaS

17:15 – Selling into law firms: why Hobart offices can be a strategic wedge

20:00 – Innovation teams: gatekeepers, champions… or blockers?

22:00 – The danger of general-purpose tools vs specialist point solutions

25:05 – How to respond when clients say “we’ll build it in-house”

27:00 – Why law firms are fast-moving money machines (and hate friction)

Resources

👩‍⚖️ Elena Tsalanidis – https://www.linkedin.com/in/elenatsalanidis

⚖️ Deeligence – https://www.deeligence.ai

🎧 More from Alan Jones – https://www.startupfoundercoach.com

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Episode Summary

Would you trust AI to help close a multi-million dollar acquisition? That’s exactly what Deeligence is helping lawyers do faster and with fewer headaches.

In this episode of Pick My Brain, Elena Tsalanidis, co-founder of Deeligence joins Alan Jones to pitch her AI-powered legal tech startup. Elena shares how her platform streamlines the M&A due diligence process for lawyers, cutting review time in half while delivering greater accuracy.

Alan and Elena dive deep into B2B SaaS sales strategy, how to stand out in a sea of AI wrappers, and what actually makes a startup defensible when everyone’s using the same language models. They explore how founders can navigate complex enterprise sales cycles, why law firms resist change, and how product distribution (not tech) is the real moat.

If you’re building in legal tech, enterprise AI, or B2B SaaS, you’ll want to take notes.

Time Stamps

01:40 – What is Deeligence? AI-powered legal due diligence for M&A lawyers

03:05 – Elena’s background: ex-lawyer, ex-legal tech startup operator

04:15 – Childhood ambitions: politics, drill sergeant energy, and leadership

06:00 – The challenge: how do AI startups prove real product differentiation?

08:30 – Alan on “thin wrappers” vs customer experience as a moat

10:10 – Building trust in professional services: security, UX, and reliability

11:40 – Why distribution beats tech in B2B AI

14:10 – What makes a moat in the era of fast, AI-powered software

16:05 – How deal size affects sales cycles in enterprise SaaS

17:15 – Selling into law firms: why Hobart offices can be a strategic wedge

20:00 – Innovation teams: gatekeepers, champions… or blockers?

22:00 – The danger of general-purpose tools vs specialist point solutions

25:05 – How to respond when clients say “we’ll build it in-house”

27:00 – Why law firms are fast-moving money machines (and hate friction)

Resources

👩‍⚖️ Elena Tsalanidis – https://www.linkedin.com/in/elenatsalanidis

⚖️ Deeligence – https://www.deeligence.ai

🎧 More from Alan Jones – https://www.startupfoundercoach.com

Sponsors:

Pick My Brain is supported by our wonderful sponsors:

Vanta automates up to 90% compliance, getting you audit-ready quickly and saving you up to 85% of associated costs. Join 10,000 global companies like Cipherstash, Handle and Indebted that use Vanta to build trust and prove security in real-time.

Get 10% off - http://dayone.fm/vanta/brain

The Day One Network

Pick My Brain is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.

To learn more, join our newsletter to be notified of new and upcoming shows. The only content we create is content that will help Australian founders.

Mentioned in this episode:

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10 episodes

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