In this powerful, emotionally honest and matter of fact episode of Overnight Wisdom, Chisom Udeze is joined by the brilliant Dr. Poornima Luthra — educator, acclaimed author, and thought leader on inclusive leadership — for a deep and necessary conversation about what it really takes to lead with values in an uncertain world.
Together, they unpack what most leadership books don’t:
the fear, the resistance, the unlearning.
The moments when silence feels safer.
And what it costs to choose conviction instead.
They explore:

• What values-driven leadership looks like when the stakes are high
• Why fear often disguises itself as resistance — and how to meet it with courage
• The tension between capitalism, growth, and inclusion
• Cancel culture, grace, and how we hold space for imperfection
• Power as self-possession — not domination
• The rituals and boundaries that make sustainable leadership possible
• What Poornima is unlearning, and much more

This conversation isn’t just about leading others — it’s about the internal discipline required to lead yourself, especially in times of backlash, burnout, or political shift. It’s about anchoring in what matters — even when everything around you is moving.
Whether you’re building systems, teams, movements, or a new way of being — this episode holds up a mirror.
Because leading with integrity isn’t always easy. But it’s always worth it.

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