📅 Published: July 7th, 2025

🎙️ Host: Sam Taylor, Chief Operating Officer, Our National Conversation (ONC).

👤 Guests: Masie Zasadny, Managing Editor, Our National Conversation (ONC). Jeff Hall, CEO, Our National Conversation (ONC).

The Big Beautiful Bill is currently being debated on the House Floor. This bill, roughly 900 pages long, would extend Trump's tax cuts, impose big restrictions on Medicaid and bolster ICE and the military --- all in addition to about a billion other things.

Democrats are saying this is the worst piece of major legislation in modern history --- a bloated and shameless series of tax cuts paid for by gutting low-income services. Most Republicans, meanwhile, are living in a completely different world: this, in their view, is one of the best bills in modern history, securing our boarder, stimulating the economy through tax cuts and imposing common-sense restrictions on welfare services.

In this episode, three moderates try to figure out what is going on with this bill. Why are Democrats and Republicans living in completely different worlds? What does the bill actually do? Is it all bad? All good? Or a mix?

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