In this episode, host Jarrod A. Clabaugh, CAE, sits down with Erin Fischer and Mike McRee for a dynamic conversation about elevating leadership training and facilitation. Together, they unpack what it takes to design learning experiences that truly resonate—from understanding your audience and shaping participant-centered sessions to using storytelling as a powerful engagement tool. They also explore why prep work and post-session follow-up are essential for lasting impact. Throughout the discussion, Erin and Mike highlight the importance of continual growth, authentic connection, and creating spaces where leaders can learn, reflect, and thrive.

This episode is sponsored by Kalahari Resorts & Conventions Sandusky.

OSAP Observations is produced by Association Briefings.