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The next step for VPNs w/ Carl Dong from Obscura
Manage episode 474275921 series 2932360
The VPN paradigm has grown stale, with simple one-party providers being the best available. But what if we could further minimize trust by shift to a two-party hop system? Obscura is doing just that, and we’re sitting down with their founder Carl Dong to learn all about it.
More about Carl
- Carl’s guest profile – https://optoutpod.com/guests/carl-dong/
More about Obscura
- Website: https://obscura.net/
- Obscura’s Twitter: https://x.com/obscuravpn
- Technical Blog Post on Obscura: https://obscura.net/blog/bootstrapping-trust/
- iCloud Private Relay: https://www.apple.com/icloud/docs/iCloud_Private_Relay_Overview_Dec2021.pdf
- MASQUE at the IETF: https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/masque/about/
Supporting Opt Out
- Donations – https://optoutpod.com/donate
- Leave a review on your favorite podcast platform, if possible!
- Share it with your friends, family, and other communities!
Chapters
1. The next step for VPNs w/ Carl Dong from Obscura (00:00:00)
2. How did you end up creating Obscura? (00:01:30)
3. Reproducible builds in a nutshell (00:02:17)
4. Investigating iCloud Relay (00:05:07)
5. What is Obscura, and why did you feel it was a necessary privacy tool? (00:17:02)
6. How do you view Obscura in the broad ecosytem of privacy tools for networking? (00:20:41)
7. Why was Mullvad the partner of choice for Obscura's launch? Do you have plans to add more "exit node" partners down the line and give users a choice for that portion of their connection? (00:24:49)
8. Comparing Obscura to "just" using Mullvad in terms of throughput and latency (00:29:24)
9. What's to stop Obscura and Mullvad from colluding to break the core improvement that Obscura brings over a traditional VPN? (00:32:12)
10. What other aspects of Obscura really excite you? (00:38:03)
11. Wen Monero support?!? (00:42:35)
12. Wen autoconnect at launch? (00:43:49)
13. Wen Android?!? (00:45:28)
14. Listener Questions (00:49:44)
15. What was the biggest technical challenge you faced building Obscura, and what do you anticipate next? (00:50:11)
16. Is port-forwarding on the roadmap? (00:53:46)
17. Will you add tracker or ad-blocking via DNS to Obscura? (00:56:52)
18. How are you prioritizing between what platforms to expand to next? (00:58:49)
46 episodes
Manage episode 474275921 series 2932360
The VPN paradigm has grown stale, with simple one-party providers being the best available. But what if we could further minimize trust by shift to a two-party hop system? Obscura is doing just that, and we’re sitting down with their founder Carl Dong to learn all about it.
More about Carl
- Carl’s guest profile – https://optoutpod.com/guests/carl-dong/
More about Obscura
- Website: https://obscura.net/
- Obscura’s Twitter: https://x.com/obscuravpn
- Technical Blog Post on Obscura: https://obscura.net/blog/bootstrapping-trust/
- iCloud Private Relay: https://www.apple.com/icloud/docs/iCloud_Private_Relay_Overview_Dec2021.pdf
- MASQUE at the IETF: https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/masque/about/
Supporting Opt Out
- Donations – https://optoutpod.com/donate
- Leave a review on your favorite podcast platform, if possible!
- Share it with your friends, family, and other communities!
Chapters
1. The next step for VPNs w/ Carl Dong from Obscura (00:00:00)
2. How did you end up creating Obscura? (00:01:30)
3. Reproducible builds in a nutshell (00:02:17)
4. Investigating iCloud Relay (00:05:07)
5. What is Obscura, and why did you feel it was a necessary privacy tool? (00:17:02)
6. How do you view Obscura in the broad ecosytem of privacy tools for networking? (00:20:41)
7. Why was Mullvad the partner of choice for Obscura's launch? Do you have plans to add more "exit node" partners down the line and give users a choice for that portion of their connection? (00:24:49)
8. Comparing Obscura to "just" using Mullvad in terms of throughput and latency (00:29:24)
9. What's to stop Obscura and Mullvad from colluding to break the core improvement that Obscura brings over a traditional VPN? (00:32:12)
10. What other aspects of Obscura really excite you? (00:38:03)
11. Wen Monero support?!? (00:42:35)
12. Wen autoconnect at launch? (00:43:49)
13. Wen Android?!? (00:45:28)
14. Listener Questions (00:49:44)
15. What was the biggest technical challenge you faced building Obscura, and what do you anticipate next? (00:50:11)
16. Is port-forwarding on the roadmap? (00:53:46)
17. Will you add tracker or ad-blocking via DNS to Obscura? (00:56:52)
18. How are you prioritizing between what platforms to expand to next? (00:58:49)
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