"The identity should be outside of the computer."

hzrd149 & Gigi contemplate local relays.

Libraries & apps mentioned:

• Applesauce
• Boris
• Citrine
• nostr-relay-tray

In this dialogue:

• Automation & robot armies
• If this than that (IFTTT)
• Permissioned vs permissionless automation
• Self-hosting and the local-first people
• "The identity should be outside of the computer"
• Private vs public, local vs remote
• DRM and other nonsense
• Private means encrypted with my key
• Nostr apps should be local-first, thanks to local relays
• All nostr apps should work in flight mode, somewhat
• Outbox model, writing, and reading
• Search & NIP-50
• Ants & thisishowyougetants.com
• 6 degrees of separation & FoaF
• WoT
• Friend list curation & "circles"
• "Don't touch my follow list"
• Bootstrapping a network by saying GM a lot
• Recommendations usually suck
• Nostr can shine
• Vertex & figuring out who John is
• NIP-05 & realness
• Root-level domains & realness (e.g. @dergigi.com)
• Zaps & realness
• Nutzaps & realness
• Local-first & local algorithms
• nostrdb VS local relays
• Local data & relevancy
• noDNS, locality, local preference, and "good enough"
• Mostly online vs mostly offline
• "Servers aren't bad. Getting rugpulled is bad."
• "Information is easy to spread but hard to stifle"
• Local hubs, community hubs, global hubs
• "nostr was built for broadcasting"
• Building stuff badly & nerd-sniping people
• Gigi's ants video
• Walking in circles
• DM metadata leakage
• "It shouldn't matter where the data comes from"
• "Deleting data is a lie"
• The impossibility of proving deletion
• Bitrot & data loss
• Fighting bitrot with duplication & rebroadcasting
• Bouquet, blossom, and self-healing links
• Local-first vs local-also
• Left-side of the bellcurve CDN
• The one whale relay
• Topic-based relays
• fiatjaf's pyramid relay
• Torrents, early video content, game installers
• fiatjaf’s take on IPFS
• Why not rebuild Cloudflare?
• Censorship-resistance = 100% uptime = no rugpulls
• Getting offered weed on the streets
• Every app works in flight mode
• No developer needs an API key
• "The data accumulates where it needs to accumulate"
• Browser history as an example of local data & user interests
• WoT is kinda local
• wot.dergigi.com
• Blossom is different; blobs are heavy
• American HODL's vlogs
• "Step 1 is to build a shitty version"
• HAVEN
• Nostr Repair Kit (Nostr pacemaker)
• Shout-out to Pablo's highlighter (fucking hell)
• Open-source & scratching your own itch
• Applesauce v4
• "It's almost done" - famous last words!
• Outbox in applesauce, and how it makes everything more difficult
• Waves, routstr, Pete, Justin, Paul, Gzuuus
• Hzrd's SEC-05 highlights
• noDNS
• Wally & Cashu Wallet Connect
• Crazy idea => Consensus => Implementation
• Difference between idea & implementation
• "Domains are shitcoins"
• We've been living in a post-domain world for a while
• Independent browsers & project Ladybird
• Nostr-native browser - who will build it?
• "A different way of doing internet infrastructure"
• Is a world without APIs possible?
• Mainframe => Personal Computer => Smartphones
• Online sometimes => Offline sometimes
• Local LLMs
• Nostr allows you to build less
• Thin layers & special-purpose apps
• NIP-60 and finding spare change under the couch
• Does negentropy fix NIP-60 synchronization?
• Nostr is synergistic
• The beauty of nostr-relay-tray
• Nostr works. We've come far!
• It's all coming together
• Boris
• "You can always go back and build it right"
• Just begin again.
• Just begin again.
• Just begin again.