In this episode, Grant sits down with author and entrepreneur Alan Hirsch to talk about why the Church has suppressed the language of the five-fold ministry—the apostle, prophet, evangelist, shepherd, and teacher—and why rediscovering it is the key to unlocking the potential of the next generation. If you’ve ever felt like a misfit in the church, like you have an angst or a passion that doesn’t quite fit the mold, this conversation is for you! Watch as Alan breaks down these callings as a direct extension of the ministry of Jesus himself and helps you understand your own unique wiring so you can move from feeling like a rebel to becoming the healthy, effective leader God created you to be. This isn't just another personality test; this is about activating the full potential of the body of Christ! Check out Alan Hirsch's website: https://www.alanhirsch.org// Follow Grant on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grantskeldon Visit Grant's website: https://www.grantskeldon.com/

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