About Stacey Brown Randall: Stacey Brown Randall is the multiple award-winning author of Generating Business Referrals Without Asking, host of the Roadmap to Referrals podcast, and teaches business owners how to generate referrals naturally without manipulating, incentivizing, or even asking. She has been featured in national publications like Entrepreneur magazine, Investor Business Daily, Forbes, and more. She received her Master’s in Organizational Communication and is married with three kids.

In this episode, Ryan and Stacey Brown Randall discuss:

• The psychology and science behind how referrals work
• Why traditional referral strategies often fail for small business owners
• The importance of maintaining authentic relationships to generate referrals
• Structuring referrals as a distinct strategy in business development

Key Takeaways:

• A true referral only occurs when there is both a personal connection made by a trusted third party and an identified need in the prospect—without those two elements, it’s merely word-of-mouth or a cold lead, not a referral.
• By rejecting traditional referral tactics like asking, paying, or constant networking, Stacey developed a results-driven approach that earned her 112 unsolicited referrals in her first year, transforming her business through authenticity and strategy.
• Referrals should not be lumped into marketing or prospecting efforts but treated as a distinct and separate third leg of business development that requires its language, audience (referral sources, not prospects), and nurturing tactics.
• Stacey’s framework is grounded in the science of brain chemistry, behavioral economics, and the psychology of trust, showing that referrals are generated not by persuasion or promotion but by building long-term relationships that make people feel good about helping others.

"Doing amazing work does not equal generating referrals." — Stacey Brown Randall

Connect with Stacey Brown Randall:

Website: https://staceybrownrandall.com/

Book: Generating Business Referrals Without Asking: https://www.amazon.com/Generating-Business-Referrals-Without-Asking-ebook/dp/B07D99KJ6H/

Show: Roadmap to Referrals: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/roadmap-to-referrals/id1405302350

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceybrandall/

Schedule your free 1:1 Profit Breakthrough Session with Ryan here: https://go.oncehub.com/profit

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Net Profit CFO Home Page: www.netprofitcfo.com

Email: [email protected]

Facebook: www.facebook.com/rkimler

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/ryankfinancialclarityllc/

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Show notes by Podcastologist Andy Santiago

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