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This Hedge Fund Trying to Become the Top Pod Shop in Crypto is Rethinking the Multi-Manager Hedge Fund Model | Anatoly Crachilov of Nickel Digital

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This Other People’s Money episode is brought to you by CAIA.nxt. Learn more about their alternatives education courses for investment advisors and get 10% off with code MMTEN: https://caia.org/content/welcome-monetary-matters-and-other-peoples-money-listeners

Anatoly Crachilov, CEO and Co-Founder of Nickel Digital Asset Management, joins Other People’s Money to discuss why crypto is the perfect asset class for the multi-manager pod shop model. He also explains how Nickel is taking a “West Berlin” approach to partnering with external traders compared to the “East Berlin” approach of many traditional pod shops where non-competes and strict control of IP is the norm. He also discusses why 2025 has been a difficult year for crypto traders, how their team is managing the choppy markets, and how scaled up pods and incubation stage pods managed the extreme volatility in October.

Follow Anatoly Crachilov on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anatoly-crachilov/

Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe

Follow Other People’s Money on:

Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M

Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi

YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR

X https://x.com/opmpod

Timestamps

00:00 Intro

00:38 CAIA.nxt

01:24 Multi-Manager Origin Story

03:12 No Central Book or Alpha Capture

04:32 Expanding Number of Pods

06:15 Technology Enabled Growth

10:09 Onboarding a New Pod

14:38 Benefits of Crypto's Infinite Divisibility

15:58 CAIA.nxt

16:54 Determining the Scalability of Strategies

18:03 Minimum & Maximum Pod Sizes at Scale

18:33 Measuring Risk Adjusted Returns

20:34 Pod Compensation and Fund Level Fees

24:43 Winning the War for Talent

29:29 Pods Can Be Independent Prop Shops and Single Managers

35:03 Demand for Crypto Multi-Manager Funds

39:02 Reducing Risk in Crypto with 3rd Party Settlement & Custodians

46:08 Crypto Still Has Low Liquidity

49:41 The Cost of Poor Trade Execution in Crypto

53:16 Current Environment for Crypto

58:22 Risk Management Adjustments in a Choppy Year

01:02:04 Different Testing Environments for New Pods

01:06:30 What Happens When a Scaled Pod Has a Drawdown?

01:09:35 Conclusion

  continue reading

179 episodes

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Manage episode 517740169 series 3627237
Content provided by Jack Farley. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Jack Farley or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://podcastplayer.com/legal.

This Other People’s Money episode is brought to you by CAIA.nxt. Learn more about their alternatives education courses for investment advisors and get 10% off with code MMTEN: https://caia.org/content/welcome-monetary-matters-and-other-peoples-money-listeners

Anatoly Crachilov, CEO and Co-Founder of Nickel Digital Asset Management, joins Other People’s Money to discuss why crypto is the perfect asset class for the multi-manager pod shop model. He also explains how Nickel is taking a “West Berlin” approach to partnering with external traders compared to the “East Berlin” approach of many traditional pod shops where non-competes and strict control of IP is the norm. He also discusses why 2025 has been a difficult year for crypto traders, how their team is managing the choppy markets, and how scaled up pods and incubation stage pods managed the extreme volatility in October.

Follow Anatoly Crachilov on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anatoly-crachilov/

Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe

Follow Other People’s Money on:

Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M

Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi

YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR

X https://x.com/opmpod

Timestamps

00:00 Intro

00:38 CAIA.nxt

01:24 Multi-Manager Origin Story

03:12 No Central Book or Alpha Capture

04:32 Expanding Number of Pods

06:15 Technology Enabled Growth

10:09 Onboarding a New Pod

14:38 Benefits of Crypto's Infinite Divisibility

15:58 CAIA.nxt

16:54 Determining the Scalability of Strategies

18:03 Minimum & Maximum Pod Sizes at Scale

18:33 Measuring Risk Adjusted Returns

20:34 Pod Compensation and Fund Level Fees

24:43 Winning the War for Talent

29:29 Pods Can Be Independent Prop Shops and Single Managers

35:03 Demand for Crypto Multi-Manager Funds

39:02 Reducing Risk in Crypto with 3rd Party Settlement & Custodians

46:08 Crypto Still Has Low Liquidity

49:41 The Cost of Poor Trade Execution in Crypto

53:16 Current Environment for Crypto

58:22 Risk Management Adjustments in a Choppy Year

01:02:04 Different Testing Environments for New Pods

01:06:30 What Happens When a Scaled Pod Has a Drawdown?

01:09:35 Conclusion

  continue reading

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