In this episode, Mishu sits down with indie pop artist and producer Lillian Frances to talk about the pendulum swing between hyper-focus and creative burnout, what Burning Man taught her about play, and the practical ways she’s learning to sustain both her art and her business. From teaching music production to self-releasing textured, bilingual dream-pop, Lillian opens up about the challenge of being a “sonic collager” while also running three full-time jobs in one body.

🎶 Lillian Frances is a self-produced Sacramento-based alt-pop artist whose sound blends organic and electronic textures, moving seamlessly between English and Spanish. Her music has been featured on NPR, Indie Shuffle, and Pop Matters; she’s performed at Oregon Country Fair, Stilldream, Feather River Flowdown, and opened for Sylvan Esso. Her latest single “In Violet” (Jan 2025) is the first taste of a new album dropping soon.

We talk about:
→ How The Artist’s Way supercharged a summer of focus
→ The rhythm of working at 130%… and then crashing into play
→ Why journaling and environment shape her creative process
→ Juggling the triple identity of pop star, producer, and educator
→ Letting go of genre to embrace sonic collage

More from Lillian:
Official site: lillianfrancesmusic.com
Instagram: @lillianfancess
Spotify: Lillian Frances