Jesse Lennox comes prepared for battle and sounds a horn of forewarning before drilling deep. What also happens is I wander off a few times. Ill admit it, I am a sucker for wandering conversations and improper grammar.

I find conversations more genuine when the interviewer is well prepared and the interviewee completely under prepared. This was the case and I had a delightful time.

Coming up next? Erik and I potentially at our most shameful lows. One trash talk podcast to rule them all. Because I am almost 40, and we are up above it.