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Conflict Is Inevitable, Division Is a Choice — Nina Barnes

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Conflict can strengthen relationships—if handled well. Nina Barnes shares why avoiding conflict causes more harm, how to tell the truth with kindness (not just niceness!), and why “agreeing to disagree” isn’t always the answer. Learn strategies for turning conflict into deeper connection.

This episode kicks off the newly relaunched Mending Divides Podcast, where Dr. Jer Swigart has unfiltered conversations about conflict—what it is, why it matters, and how to navigate it well—with those who think deeply about it.

Chapters

01:00 Start

01:34 Conflict is inevitable

04:43 Conflict styles

06:36 Conflict as an opportunity

09:15 Suspicion in the Absence of Conflict

10:53 Conflict is modeled for us

15:48 Nina’s Direct Conflict Style

16:50 Niceness vs. Kindness

21:17 Truth-telling with Kindness: What’s the Goal?

26:30 Getting Practical - How to do this

32:54 Agree to Disagree?

36:56 Dehumanization is “the line”

42:53 A Real Life Story

50:56 Invitations

58:32 Closing

Guest bio: Nina Barnes

Nina Barnes is a Spiritual Director, the Founder of Transforming Journey, and a featured faculty member of Global Immersion’s Leadership Cohort. She is a seasoned leader who spends her life accompanying Reconciling Leaders as they grow their cultural awareness, resilience, and prophetic witness.

Nina's Website

Mentioned in this episode:

Whitworth Ministry Summit

Repairers of the Breach June 24-27, 2025 "Your ancient ruins shall be rebuilt; you shall raise up the foundations of many generations; you shall be called the repairer of the breach, the restorer of streets to live in." (Isaiah 58:12) In the face of division, apathy, anger and violence, how do we as Christian leaders not grow weary? How do we remain awake to all that feels broken in our congregations, communities and world? How do we hold tension between the urgency of change and the slow pace of transformation? How do we nurture faith communities that restore hope and peace? Join us in June to explore these questions and more. Together, we will: Enjoy deep, formational worship experiences Process this cultural moment in community with other pastors Nurture our spiritual health and rest Discern where God is calling us now

Whitworth Ministry Summit

Lent Reflections

Throughout this season of Lent, our Peace Fellows offer weekly reflections that will guide us as we confess our complicity, reject the temptations of power, and move toward one another in love. Watch for those reflections, delivered once a week on our blog throughout Lent and join the conversations on Instagram and Facebook.

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Become an Ember

EMBERS is our community of investors and partners committed to igniting and fueling the Everyday Peacemaking movement. Through their continued monthly support, EMBERS members accompany us in our work of forming Everyday Peacemakers and Reconciling Leaders to mend divides.

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Conflict can strengthen relationships—if handled well. Nina Barnes shares why avoiding conflict causes more harm, how to tell the truth with kindness (not just niceness!), and why “agreeing to disagree” isn’t always the answer. Learn strategies for turning conflict into deeper connection.

This episode kicks off the newly relaunched Mending Divides Podcast, where Dr. Jer Swigart has unfiltered conversations about conflict—what it is, why it matters, and how to navigate it well—with those who think deeply about it.

Chapters

01:00 Start

01:34 Conflict is inevitable

04:43 Conflict styles

06:36 Conflict as an opportunity

09:15 Suspicion in the Absence of Conflict

10:53 Conflict is modeled for us

15:48 Nina’s Direct Conflict Style

16:50 Niceness vs. Kindness

21:17 Truth-telling with Kindness: What’s the Goal?

26:30 Getting Practical - How to do this

32:54 Agree to Disagree?

36:56 Dehumanization is “the line”

42:53 A Real Life Story

50:56 Invitations

58:32 Closing

Guest bio: Nina Barnes

Nina Barnes is a Spiritual Director, the Founder of Transforming Journey, and a featured faculty member of Global Immersion’s Leadership Cohort. She is a seasoned leader who spends her life accompanying Reconciling Leaders as they grow their cultural awareness, resilience, and prophetic witness.

Nina's Website

Mentioned in this episode:

Whitworth Ministry Summit

Repairers of the Breach June 24-27, 2025 "Your ancient ruins shall be rebuilt; you shall raise up the foundations of many generations; you shall be called the repairer of the breach, the restorer of streets to live in." (Isaiah 58:12) In the face of division, apathy, anger and violence, how do we as Christian leaders not grow weary? How do we remain awake to all that feels broken in our congregations, communities and world? How do we hold tension between the urgency of change and the slow pace of transformation? How do we nurture faith communities that restore hope and peace? Join us in June to explore these questions and more. Together, we will: Enjoy deep, formational worship experiences Process this cultural moment in community with other pastors Nurture our spiritual health and rest Discern where God is calling us now

Whitworth Ministry Summit

Lent Reflections

Throughout this season of Lent, our Peace Fellows offer weekly reflections that will guide us as we confess our complicity, reject the temptations of power, and move toward one another in love. Watch for those reflections, delivered once a week on our blog throughout Lent and join the conversations on Instagram and Facebook.

Blog

Become an Ember

EMBERS is our community of investors and partners committed to igniting and fueling the Everyday Peacemaking movement. Through their continued monthly support, EMBERS members accompany us in our work of forming Everyday Peacemakers and Reconciling Leaders to mend divides.

Donate - Embers

  continue reading

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