Today, we’re thrilled to welcome Evan Shapiro, Emmy-winning producer, professor, media strategist, and founder of ESHAP.

ESHAP is a “change agency” known for making sense of chaos in media. If you’ve ever seen the famous Media Universe Map, you’ve seen Evan’s work—he’s the self-proclaimed Media Cartographer, charting how platforms, creators, and culture collide.

With a media career spanning iconic comedy shows like Portlandia and Comedy Bang Bang, Evan has become a rare bridge between traditional media and the creator economy. Through his company, his podcast “The Media Odyssey,” and his Substack “Media War & Peace,” Evan is shaping the global conversation on what comes next.

Episode breakdown:

Welcome - 00:00:00

Evan's Path - 00:01:21

Deep Dive - 00:09:59

Shout Out - 00:23:23

Lightning Round - 00:27:32

Future - 00:38:44