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Ben-Gurion's Relationship to the Palestinians: Status Update -- Its Complicated

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Thus episode revisits the letter Ben Gurion wrote to his son that I addressed in the earlier episode "Cleansing Pappe's Distortions." Here I seek to put that letter into the context of Ben-Gurion's well documented statements on transfer made over the course of decades. I draw conclutions about the motivations of Ben-Gurion's interpreters and the implications for the conflict in general.

List of sources cited:

The 1918 article that Ben Gurion wrote in the Yiddish organ of the Jewish Socialist Party Poalei Tzion -- Hebrew Version: https://benyehuda.org/read/1469

For the English translation see My Talks with Arab Leaders pg. 7-8 :

https://archive.org/details/MyTalksWithArabLeadersDavidBenGurionTranslatedFromTheHebrewByAryehRubinsteinAndMishaLouvish/page/n13/mode/2up)

1924,speech given at Kibbutz Ein Charod Ben Gurion:

https://benyehuda.org/read/1469

Ben-Gurions 1929 Plan for a Bi-National State that was presented in 1930 and published in 1931:

For an English Summary of the 1929 plan see My Talks with Arab Leaders by Ben Gurion ppg. 23-24

For the partition plan that that Ben Gurion conceived of in early 1937 and his embrace of transfer in a letter to his son Amos see Letters to Paula by Ben Gurion pg. 129 Letter dated July 27, 1937): https://archive.org/details/letterstopaula00davi/page/128/mode/2up

For Ben-Gurions embrace of population transfer in his diary entry of July 12, 1937

Ben Gurion's testimony for the UNSCOP committee

March 23, 1941, Guideline for Zionist Policy, Submitted to the Jewish Agency Executive Meeting, in Jerusalem by Ben Gurion:

https://israeled.org/resources/documents/david-ben-gurion-guideline-for-zionist-policy-1941/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Extended Bibliography:

The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Ilan Pappe

The Birth of the Palestinian Refuge Problem, 1947-1949 by Benny Morris

Palestine 1936 by Oren Kessler

Ben-Gurion Father of Modern Israel by Anita Shapira

Palestine Betrayed by Efraim Karsh

Industry of Lies by Ben-Dror Yemini

Journal of Palestine Studies Compounds its Ben-Gurion Error

JPS Responds to Camera's Call for Accuracy

Quoting Ben-Gurion: An Exchange

Benny Morris' Reign of Terror Revisited

Ilan Pappe and CAMERA: How the Zionists are fighting history

The Concept of "Transfer " in Zionist Thinking and Practice: Historical Roots and Contemporary Challenges

My Talks with Arab Leaders by David Ben Gurion

Letters to Paula and to the Children by David Ben Gurion

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Content provided by Ross Singer. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Ross Singer or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://podcastplayer.com/legal.

Thus episode revisits the letter Ben Gurion wrote to his son that I addressed in the earlier episode "Cleansing Pappe's Distortions." Here I seek to put that letter into the context of Ben-Gurion's well documented statements on transfer made over the course of decades. I draw conclutions about the motivations of Ben-Gurion's interpreters and the implications for the conflict in general.

List of sources cited:

The 1918 article that Ben Gurion wrote in the Yiddish organ of the Jewish Socialist Party Poalei Tzion -- Hebrew Version: https://benyehuda.org/read/1469

For the English translation see My Talks with Arab Leaders pg. 7-8 :

https://archive.org/details/MyTalksWithArabLeadersDavidBenGurionTranslatedFromTheHebrewByAryehRubinsteinAndMishaLouvish/page/n13/mode/2up)

1924,speech given at Kibbutz Ein Charod Ben Gurion:

https://benyehuda.org/read/1469

Ben-Gurions 1929 Plan for a Bi-National State that was presented in 1930 and published in 1931:

For an English Summary of the 1929 plan see My Talks with Arab Leaders by Ben Gurion ppg. 23-24

For the partition plan that that Ben Gurion conceived of in early 1937 and his embrace of transfer in a letter to his son Amos see Letters to Paula by Ben Gurion pg. 129 Letter dated July 27, 1937): https://archive.org/details/letterstopaula00davi/page/128/mode/2up

For Ben-Gurions embrace of population transfer in his diary entry of July 12, 1937

Ben Gurion's testimony for the UNSCOP committee

March 23, 1941, Guideline for Zionist Policy, Submitted to the Jewish Agency Executive Meeting, in Jerusalem by Ben Gurion:

https://israeled.org/resources/documents/david-ben-gurion-guideline-for-zionist-policy-1941/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Extended Bibliography:

The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Ilan Pappe

The Birth of the Palestinian Refuge Problem, 1947-1949 by Benny Morris

Palestine 1936 by Oren Kessler

Ben-Gurion Father of Modern Israel by Anita Shapira

Palestine Betrayed by Efraim Karsh

Industry of Lies by Ben-Dror Yemini

Journal of Palestine Studies Compounds its Ben-Gurion Error

JPS Responds to Camera's Call for Accuracy

Quoting Ben-Gurion: An Exchange

Benny Morris' Reign of Terror Revisited

Ilan Pappe and CAMERA: How the Zionists are fighting history

The Concept of "Transfer " in Zionist Thinking and Practice: Historical Roots and Contemporary Challenges

My Talks with Arab Leaders by David Ben Gurion

Letters to Paula and to the Children by David Ben Gurion

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