What if the life you’re working so hard to build isn’t actually yours?

Chris joins us to chart a raw, compelling path from “good on paper” to good in the soul—walking away from a safe finance career, building a thriving gym by listening first, then burning out while scaling a meal company for all the wrong reasons. The collapse became a catalyst: meditation, nature, deep emotional work, and a deliberate shedding of labels that had become armor. Without the athlete or the achiever, he asked the only question that matters—who am I—and rebuilt from there.
We explore the difference between ego purpose and soul purpose, and why service sits at the heart of any life that feels true. Chris lays out practical, repeatable tools: become before you do, define “I’m the type of person who…” identities, and stack small habits that compound into character. He shows how breath can flip your brain from survival to clarity, and how tiny transition rituals prevent you from dragging yesterday into the room with the people you love today.
We also zoom out to our tech-shaped world. AI can speed tasks, but it can’t replace the felt experience of human connection. We talk about using tools without becoming them, writing and speaking from the heart, and restoring the generational loop—learning wonder from children and wisdom from elders. If you’ve checked the boxes and still feel restless, this conversation offers a map back to meaning: purpose as service, success as gratitude, and a life that pulls you instead of a grind you push.
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