In this conversation, Etelle Higonnet, founder of Coffee Watch, discusses the intersection of human rights and environmental issues within the coffee industry. She highlights the urgent need for ethical practices, the impact of climate change on migration, and the role of consumers in driving change. The discussion also covers the challenges of modern slavery in coffee production, the importance of living wage certifications, and the need for legislative action to combat deforestation and exploitation. Higonnet emphasizes the power of collective action and consumer choices in creating a more sustainable and just coffee industry.