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“Alignment remains a hard, unsolved problem” by null
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Though there are certainly some issues, I think most current large language models are pretty well aligned. Despite its alignment faking, my favorite is probably Claude 3 Opus, and if you asked me to pick between the CEV of Claude 3 Opus and that of a median human, I think it'd be a pretty close call. So, overall, I'm quite positive on the alignment of current models! And yet, I remain very worried about alignment in the future. This is my attempt to explain why that is.
What makes alignment hard?
I really like this graph from Christopher Olah for illustrating different levels of alignment difficulty:
If the only thing that we have to do to solve alignment is train away easily detectable behavioral issues—that is, issues like reward hacking or agentic misalignment where there is a straightforward behavioral alignment issue that we can detect and evaluate—then we are very much [...]
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Outline:
(01:04) What makes alignment hard?
(02:36) Outer alignment
(04:07) Inner alignment
(06:16) Misalignment from pre-training
(07:18) Misaligned personas
(11:05) Misalignment from long-horizon RL
(13:01) What should we be doing?
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First published:
November 27th, 2025
Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/epjuxGnSPof3GnMSL/alignment-remains-a-hard-unsolved-problem
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Though there are certainly some issues, I think most current large language models are pretty well aligned. Despite its alignment faking, my favorite is probably Claude 3 Opus, and if you asked me to pick between the CEV of Claude 3 Opus and that of a median human, I think it'd be a pretty close call. So, overall, I'm quite positive on the alignment of current models! And yet, I remain very worried about alignment in the future. This is my attempt to explain why that is.
What makes alignment hard?
I really like this graph from Christopher Olah for illustrating different levels of alignment difficulty:
If the only thing that we have to do to solve alignment is train away easily detectable behavioral issues—that is, issues like reward hacking or agentic misalignment where there is a straightforward behavioral alignment issue that we can detect and evaluate—then we are very much [...]
---
Outline:
(01:04) What makes alignment hard?
(02:36) Outer alignment
(04:07) Inner alignment
(06:16) Misalignment from pre-training
(07:18) Misaligned personas
(11:05) Misalignment from long-horizon RL
(13:01) What should we be doing?
---
First published:
November 27th, 2025
Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/epjuxGnSPof3GnMSL/alignment-remains-a-hard-unsolved-problem
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Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.
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