The word 'transformation' is thrown around in all sorts of contexts and in all manner of attempts to sell change. The outcomes are never given, despite best laid plans, and it often falls down not because of process nor technology. The stumbling block is usually us. And it's not about the oversimplified trope of being resistant to change. On many occasions we actually want to see the change succeed - especially if it will make our lives easier. But good intentions are rarely enough.

What is often ignored in both small and large change initiatives is that success rests on the skilful way we can navigate the change process itself. Sitting in the discomfort of uncertainty; working through potentially polarising differences with our colleagues; voicing our concerns and our ideas, despite perceived risks, so that we can all generate the best possible solutions. All of these are skilful practices no one ever really teaches us, but without which we simply spin our wheels.

KG and Paul spent time in the Podcave with Jamie Gerlach, CEO of 4C Transformative Learning and 4C Organisations. Jamie and his team spend their days working with both educators and organisations, exploring the deep processes and skills required to deeply engage with change, and to bring about real transformation.

As they kick back with an amazing chilled white wine from Sicily, they take their time to really think about what it takes to build this sort of transformational muscle - occasionally distracted by the outstanding quality of the drop - a 2023 Cantine Petrosino Lucido Catarratto. No, seriously, you've got to get yourself some of this wine. It is amazing. Thanks to our friends at Annandale Cellars!

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