In this episode of Law Talk with the Flock, Jeana sits down with real estate entrepreneur and the region’s foremost motivational speaker, Van Deeb, to explore what it really takes to build a business with integrity — and why having the right legal partner is part of that equation.

Van shares stories from growing one of the Midwest’s most successful independent real estate firms and the leadership principles that fueled its rise, including something many business owners overlook: a deep respect for compliance, legal strategy, and doing things the right way from day one.

Jeana and Van talk about the way competitors respond to innovation, their shared affinity for helping families across generations, and why the phrase “I don’t know, but I’ll find out” might be the smartest answer your team can give. They also dig into Van’s personal philosophies about building relationships past transactions and what it means to bring joy and creativity to the table.

Get practical insight about the best ways to move forward, including building trusted partnerships with legal professionals who know your business inside and out. It’s time to talk to the flock at Goosmann Law at GoosmannLaw.com

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