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(149) Value Based Pricing Colony with Mathew Kerbis, The Subscription Attorney

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On May 14, 2025, I presented live on the topic of subscription-based legal services to Shaun Jardine’s Value Based Pricing Colony. Here are the top 5 takeaways:

1. Start Small with Subscription Models: Law firms interested in moving to a subscription-based pricing model should begin with a pilot program in one practice area, targeting loyal clients and documenting results to build internal support.

2. Value Over Time Tracking: The shift from billable hours to subscription or value-based pricing requires a mindset change—focus on the value delivered, not the time spent. This benefits both clients (predictability) and lawyers (better relationships, less stress).

3. Tiered Service Packages and Scope Management: Successful subscription models often use tiered packages (e.g., bronze, silver, gold) with clear boundaries. It’s important to positively reinforce clients who need more and move them up tiers, rather than penalizing them.

4. Not All Clients or Practice Areas Are Equal: Subscription models may not fit every client or practice area, but with thoughtful segmentation and pricing, firms can attract ideal clients and avoid unprofitable work. It’s okay—and often necessary—to turn away difficult or low-value clients.

5. Market Opportunity and Innovation: There is a huge, underserved “latent legal market” of people and businesses who need legal help but can’t afford traditional hourly rates. Subscription and alternative pricing models, supported by technology and automation, can unlock this market and drive innovation in legal services.

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Learn more about Shaun Jardine’s Value Based Pricing Colony.

Sign up for Paxton, my all-in-one AI legal assistant, helping me with legal research, analysis, drafting, and enhancing existing legal work product.

Here’s a link to purchase lifetime access to the recordings of My Shingle’s AI Teach-In if you couldn’t make it live.

I’ve partnered with Pii to make it easy for you to purchase the hardware I use in my law firm: (1) Studio Setup; (2) Midrange Setup; (3) Highrange Setup.

Get Connected with SixFifty⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a business and employment legal document automation tool.

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Check out my other show, the Law for Kids Podcast.

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Prefer monthly updates? Sign up for the Law Subscribed Monthly Digest on LinkedIn.

Want to use the subscription model for your law firm? Sign up for the Subscription Seminar waitlist at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠subscriptionseminar.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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On May 14, 2025, I presented live on the topic of subscription-based legal services to Shaun Jardine’s Value Based Pricing Colony. Here are the top 5 takeaways:

1. Start Small with Subscription Models: Law firms interested in moving to a subscription-based pricing model should begin with a pilot program in one practice area, targeting loyal clients and documenting results to build internal support.

2. Value Over Time Tracking: The shift from billable hours to subscription or value-based pricing requires a mindset change—focus on the value delivered, not the time spent. This benefits both clients (predictability) and lawyers (better relationships, less stress).

3. Tiered Service Packages and Scope Management: Successful subscription models often use tiered packages (e.g., bronze, silver, gold) with clear boundaries. It’s important to positively reinforce clients who need more and move them up tiers, rather than penalizing them.

4. Not All Clients or Practice Areas Are Equal: Subscription models may not fit every client or practice area, but with thoughtful segmentation and pricing, firms can attract ideal clients and avoid unprofitable work. It’s okay—and often necessary—to turn away difficult or low-value clients.

5. Market Opportunity and Innovation: There is a huge, underserved “latent legal market” of people and businesses who need legal help but can’t afford traditional hourly rates. Subscription and alternative pricing models, supported by technology and automation, can unlock this market and drive innovation in legal services.

__________________________

Learn more about Shaun Jardine’s Value Based Pricing Colony.

Sign up for Paxton, my all-in-one AI legal assistant, helping me with legal research, analysis, drafting, and enhancing existing legal work product.

Here’s a link to purchase lifetime access to the recordings of My Shingle’s AI Teach-In if you couldn’t make it live.

I’ve partnered with Pii to make it easy for you to purchase the hardware I use in my law firm: (1) Studio Setup; (2) Midrange Setup; (3) Highrange Setup.

Get Connected with SixFifty⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a business and employment legal document automation tool.

Sign up for ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Gavel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, an automation platform for law firms.

Check out my other show, the Law for Kids Podcast.

Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Law Subscribed⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to subscribe to the weekly newsletter to listen from your web browser.

Prefer monthly updates? Sign up for the Law Subscribed Monthly Digest on LinkedIn.

Want to use the subscription model for your law firm? Sign up for the Subscription Seminar waitlist at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠subscriptionseminar.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Mathew Kerbis’⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ law firm ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscription Attorney LLC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.


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