What do you do when you feel like the odds are stacked against you?

In this episode, I sit down with my good friend and powerhouse leader, Deb Ingino, faculty member of Maxwell Leadership and CEO of Strength Leader. From growing up as the oldest of seven kids in a two-bedroom Bronx apartment to becoming a senior executive leading global operations in over 80 countries, Deb’s leadership journey is anything but conventional.

We talk about what it means to lead without a degree, how to handle conflict when egos and offices are on the line, and the pivotal role trust plays in building teams that actually work. Deb shares how assessments like DISC can transform not only workplaces but also marriages, families, and friendships. (And yes—we even talk about how a window office overlooking a smelly parking lot became a turning point in her career!)

This conversation is packed with wisdom about embracing your strengths, leading with heart, and finding peace in the middle of chaos. If you’ve ever questioned your path or felt like you didn’t check all the boxes, Deb’s story will show you that your unique journey is exactly what prepares you to lead at the highest level.

You’ll walk away inspired, challenged, and maybe even laughing at a few stories that prove leadership isn’t about titles or degrees—it’s about people, trust, and courage.

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