In Episode 16, host Kallie and the crew get candid about failing forward—what it means, why it matters, and how to reframe our relationship with failure. From viral underwear ads and the Dunning-Kruger effect to forgotten lip stains and botched job interviews, this conversation explores how we stumble, what we learn, and how to model resilience for our kids.

We dive into the gender gap in confidence, especially in how women approach risk, perfectionism, and the fear of public failure. Charlotte unpacks how burnout and rejection redirected her to a life she loves, while Kallie shares how a "dream house fail" ended up being a blessing in disguise. Caitlin reminds us that sometimes the only way forward is to be willing to "suck" at something until you get better.

Plus, a special chat with Erica Ligenza of Coming Up Roses and the THRIVE Podcast, where she opens up about her own recipe mishaps, personal growth, and her favorite mantra: “We can do hard things.”

We close out the show with our signature Pits and Peaks segment—because even in a week full of messes, there’s always something to celebrate.