In this episode of "It's Not About the Money," Heather and Andy are joined by Dr. Mandy, a newly minted Doctor of Education in Organizational Change and Leadership from the University of Southern California. Together, they recap the insightful conversation with Josh Lindstrom, focusing on themes of endurance, intentional rest, and the nuanced challenges of support-based ministry.

Dr. Mandy shares her extensive experience from 20 years in overseas support-based work, discussing the importance of "heartitude"—an attitude of the heart—in organizational change. She also delves into her doctoral research on the impact of COVID on Christian cross-cultural workers in China, highlighting the need for organizational resilience in times of global crises.

The episode explores the concept of Sabbath, both as a community practice and a personal discipline, and how intentional rest can be crucial for sustained ministry. Heather, Andy, and Mandy discuss the balance between overwork and surrender, the importance of communicating with supporters, and the often-overlooked ministry in mundane, everyday actions.

Listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own practices of rest and intentionality in their work, and to consider how they can better support themselves and others in seasons of endurance.

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