Leila Conners continues the Into the Woods Series with a discussion with Auke Hoekstra, Founder & Director, of the NEON Research at Eindhoven University of Technology. There are currently not enough permitted and working mines to support the renewable energy transition even though the earth does have ample reserves. The question is, what forms of destruction make sense to support the energy needs of civilization? For example is a mine in a rainforest worth starting to prevent the displacement of other refugees? Will the tug and pull of protecting local lands prevent access to these minerals and is there another way that makes sense? Is CDU (fuels from captured carbon from the sky) preferable? Watch as we explore all the options, their impacts and the tradeoffs.