Paris Marx is joined by Tina Nguyen to discuss the divisions within the American far-right between the Trump administration, the wider MAGA movement, and the tech executives trying to show they’re on their side.

Tina Nguyen is a senior reporter at The Verge and author of The MAGA Diaries: My Surreal Adventures Inside the Right-Wing (And How I Got Out).

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson.

Also mentioned in this episode:

• Tina wrote about visiting NatCon and Charlie Kirk’s memorial event.

• Tina also wrote about Peter Thiel’s ongoing obsession with the antichrist.

• Jared Isaacman was revoked as a candidate to lead NASA, highlighting the rifts Tina is discussing.

• Elon Musk is talking about starting a new political party.