In this intimate and playful conversation, host Hava Gurevich speaks with long-time friend and fellow creative, Misha Gurevich—a software designer, writer, meditator, and seeker of flow. Though they’ve known each other for over 15 years, this marks their very first face-to-face dialogue, and the result is a deeply reflective exploration of creativity, consciousness, and the transformational power of letting go.

This is a playful and thought-provoking conversation, and I’m so excited to share it with you.

Misha shares his journey from working in tech in San Francisco to enrolling at Maharishi International University, where a deep dive into meditation and creative writing sparked a lifelong fascination with flow states. Together, they discuss how self-doubt creeps into the creative process, and how tools like meditation, free writing, and play can unlock a more intuitive, joyful way of being.

Hava and Misha compare notes on their creative practices—painting, writing, coding, kiteboarding—and discover surprising common threads. They speak candidly about the tension between art and commerce, and the importance of carving out “throwaway” moments—spaces without pressure, where the best work often begins.

This episode is an invitation to loosen the grip, trust your instincts, and remember that sometimes the most profound insights come when you stop trying so hard.

Key Themes:

• The role of flow in writing, art, and everyday life
• Morning pages, self-censorship, and the myth of “doing it right”
• Letting go as both a creative and spiritual practice
• Designing environments that reduce friction and interrupt self-doubt
• The surprising power of throwaway work and the creative gold it reveals
• The uncomfortable but necessary dance between art and commerce