The world is bananas and your favorite Harges want to talk about it. They discuss what happens when it gets hard to stay motivated amidst the chaos.

Courtney opens up about the emotional process of closing her nonprofit—and what leadership looks like when the kindest thing you can do is end something with care. Tyrone reflects on creative blocks, the pressure to promote yourself, and why some of the most sacred work never makes it to the timeline.

This is one of our most personal and reflective episodes yet. We talk clout, capitalism, protection, burnout, and joy. To the ones out here building stone dwellings while the world burns—this one’s for you.

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