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116: H-1B Vivek Misses the Mark; His Critics Deny Reality - Gracearchy with Jim Babka

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A Vivek Ramaswamy Tweet on H-1B visas sparked a heated debate about immigration and economics. In this episode of Gracearchy with Jim Babka, we take a unique, grace-based libertarian approach to the conversation. While Vivek raises valid points, his perspective focuses too much on immigrants as economic units. On the other hand, his critics reveal a troubling lack of humanity and understanding, with some even echoing Know-Nothing-era arguments.

Jim dives deep into the debate, presenting a vision of immigration that sees people as unique individuals made in the image of their Creator, rather than cogs in an economic machine. He explains why H-1B visas, though flawed, might serve as a necessary temporary compromise and unpacks three ironic truths about the Know-Nothing critiques.

NOTES

- Read Vivek's Tweet: https://x.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1872312139945234507

- Know Nothings defined: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Know-Nothing-party

- Shoe on the other foot Tweet: https://x.com/ArmandDoma/status/1872524379021783109

- Tom Woods Tweet: https://x.com/ThomasEWoods/status/1872342845786382546?t=I-YRIvyQkKDBQhQ36wMO5g&s=19

- Open Borders Double GDP...

* https://openborders.info/double-world-gdp/

* https://www.wpr.org/history/economist-makes-case-open-borders-policy

CHAPTERS

0:00 Theme

0:24 Mug Shot

2:57 Vivek's Tweet

5:14 Zack vs Screech

6:57 Culture vs Selection Bias

9:18 Overlooking the bigger cultural problem

12:10 Crushing human flourishing

15:07 The Abstract vs The Real

17:53 School choice, not school standards

21:18 How billionaires work

23:18 Your wiring is special

24:18 Are you a Cog?

28:27 More Vivek Tweet

30:47 The Know-Nothings

34:12 The Bigotry Test

35:23 Hillbilly Elegy

36:54 Ironies

38:42 Why has racism become overt?

41:52 Why the scarcity mentality?

46:16 People are not merely economic units

49:06 H-1B a compromise but not gracious

53:00 As they grow, we grow

Bill Protzmann is your moderator.

The series is sponsored by THE FOUNDATION FOR HARMONY AND PROSPERITY. https://www.harmonyandprosperity.org/

Thank you to Randy Garbin for our amazing episode thumbnails: http://randygarbin.com/

We are grateful to Sergio at https://www.youtube.com/@KeysofMoonMusic for our intro theme.

https://www.patreon.com/user?u=10500501

or

you can purchase his music on BandCamp:

https://keysofmoon.bandcamp.com/

► If you have any questions please feel free to write to Sergio at: [email protected]

Chat-GPT4 was used to help write the show description.

Be grace-full to each other.

  continue reading

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A Vivek Ramaswamy Tweet on H-1B visas sparked a heated debate about immigration and economics. In this episode of Gracearchy with Jim Babka, we take a unique, grace-based libertarian approach to the conversation. While Vivek raises valid points, his perspective focuses too much on immigrants as economic units. On the other hand, his critics reveal a troubling lack of humanity and understanding, with some even echoing Know-Nothing-era arguments.

Jim dives deep into the debate, presenting a vision of immigration that sees people as unique individuals made in the image of their Creator, rather than cogs in an economic machine. He explains why H-1B visas, though flawed, might serve as a necessary temporary compromise and unpacks three ironic truths about the Know-Nothing critiques.

NOTES

- Read Vivek's Tweet: https://x.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1872312139945234507

- Know Nothings defined: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Know-Nothing-party

- Shoe on the other foot Tweet: https://x.com/ArmandDoma/status/1872524379021783109

- Tom Woods Tweet: https://x.com/ThomasEWoods/status/1872342845786382546?t=I-YRIvyQkKDBQhQ36wMO5g&s=19

- Open Borders Double GDP...

* https://openborders.info/double-world-gdp/

* https://www.wpr.org/history/economist-makes-case-open-borders-policy

CHAPTERS

0:00 Theme

0:24 Mug Shot

2:57 Vivek's Tweet

5:14 Zack vs Screech

6:57 Culture vs Selection Bias

9:18 Overlooking the bigger cultural problem

12:10 Crushing human flourishing

15:07 The Abstract vs The Real

17:53 School choice, not school standards

21:18 How billionaires work

23:18 Your wiring is special

24:18 Are you a Cog?

28:27 More Vivek Tweet

30:47 The Know-Nothings

34:12 The Bigotry Test

35:23 Hillbilly Elegy

36:54 Ironies

38:42 Why has racism become overt?

41:52 Why the scarcity mentality?

46:16 People are not merely economic units

49:06 H-1B a compromise but not gracious

53:00 As they grow, we grow

Bill Protzmann is your moderator.

The series is sponsored by THE FOUNDATION FOR HARMONY AND PROSPERITY. https://www.harmonyandprosperity.org/

Thank you to Randy Garbin for our amazing episode thumbnails: http://randygarbin.com/

We are grateful to Sergio at https://www.youtube.com/@KeysofMoonMusic for our intro theme.

https://www.patreon.com/user?u=10500501

or

you can purchase his music on BandCamp:

https://keysofmoon.bandcamp.com/

► If you have any questions please feel free to write to Sergio at: [email protected]

Chat-GPT4 was used to help write the show description.

Be grace-full to each other.

  continue reading

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