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Acceptable Mistakes & Ruthless Prioritization: How Top PMMs Are Winning in AI GTM

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Episode Summary:
Rebecca Shaddix joins Erin and Ken to blow up tired go-to-market tropes and rewrite what it means to lead with product marketing in an AI-native era. She shares the frameworks behind “acceptable mistakes,” why critical thinking is the superpower in a world of noisy AI outputs, and how to avoid chasing 80 experiments that go nowhere. If you’re a CMO, PMM, or founder trying to separate signal from AI hype, this is your roadmap.

About Our Guest:
Rebecca Shaddix is the Head of Product & Lifecycle Marketing at Garner Health, Forbes contributor, and GTM strategy pioneer. She’s built GTM engines for high-growth SaaS and EdTech, founded Strategica, and is known for making complex data actionable (without losing trust or speed). Her frameworks are shaping the new AI playbook for marketers who want repeatable results, not just activity.

00:59 Ken's AI Sandwich Framework

04:26 Erin's AI-Powered Book Series

07:10 Interview with Rebecca Shaddix

08:24 Rebecca on Acceptable Mistakes in AI Implementation

17:44 AI's Impact on Product Marketing

23:30 Balancing AI Training and Deep Research

28:41 AI Tools and Budget Constraints

30:32 Navigating the Rapid Evolution of AI in Business

30:59 Balancing Risk and Reward in AI Tool Selection

32:44 Effective Team Collaboration and AI Integration

37:08 Building Trust in AI Insights

45:15 The Future of Product Marketing

54:13 Lightning Round and Final Thoughts

Quote of the Episode:
“Trust in AI starts with transparency and ends with collaboration. Bring your teams in early, and let them own the process.” – Rebecca Shaddix

🎧 What You’ll Learn:

  • How to Make (the Right) Acceptable Mistakes:
    Rebecca’s “acceptable mistakes” framework—why defining what you won’t optimize is the move that unlocks true speed and clarity for GTM leaders.
  • Experiments Without Strategy Are Chaos:
    Why most teams run too many experiments and how to build a ruthless prioritization model that gets buy-in before the test.
  • The Real Role of AI in Product Marketing:
    How AI gives PMMs “junior analyst superpowers” but why human discernment, critical thinking, and cross-functional trust still win the day.
  • Segmentation, ICP, and the New Power User:
    How machine learning is uncovering hidden patterns in the middle of your user base (not just among your superfans)—and why most marketers overweight the wrong signals.
  • Building Trust in AI-Generated Insights:
    Rebecca’s battle-tested approach to cross-functional buy-in, demystifying black box outputs, and making AI actionable across the org.
  • Budgeting for AI When Cash Is Tight:
    The no-BS guide to picking AI tools (hint: treat it like every other investment—hypothesis, use case, ROI) and why you should always start manual.

🧠 Next-Level Insights:

  • The difference between motion and momentum in modern marketing—why activity ≠ impact
  • Why the “blank page” problem is now dead for good (and why that changes who wins in marketing teams)
  • How to democratize AI experimentation without losing control—or trust
  • The hidden risk: Over-relying on your top users for feedback and missing the 10x opportunity in the “middle layer”
Action Steps
  • Audit your own “acceptable mistakes.” What are you over-optimizing that doesn’t matter?
  • Try running a single, ruthlessly prioritized experiment—get buy-in, define the problem, THEN launch
  • Empower your team to bring AI wins (and failures) to the table—share the learning
  • Stop listening only to your power users. Find what the “middle” is doing and why.

Resources Mentioned:

Stay tuned for more FutureCraft episodes at futurecraftai.media

Liked this episode? Rate us on Spotify/Apple, share with a forward-thinking marketer, or DM us with what you want to hear next. Let’s keep crafting the future of GTM, together.

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Content provided by Erin Mills & Ken Roden, Erin Mills, and Ken Roden. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Erin Mills & Ken Roden, Erin Mills, and Ken Roden or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://podcastplayer.com/legal.

Episode Summary:
Rebecca Shaddix joins Erin and Ken to blow up tired go-to-market tropes and rewrite what it means to lead with product marketing in an AI-native era. She shares the frameworks behind “acceptable mistakes,” why critical thinking is the superpower in a world of noisy AI outputs, and how to avoid chasing 80 experiments that go nowhere. If you’re a CMO, PMM, or founder trying to separate signal from AI hype, this is your roadmap.

About Our Guest:
Rebecca Shaddix is the Head of Product & Lifecycle Marketing at Garner Health, Forbes contributor, and GTM strategy pioneer. She’s built GTM engines for high-growth SaaS and EdTech, founded Strategica, and is known for making complex data actionable (without losing trust or speed). Her frameworks are shaping the new AI playbook for marketers who want repeatable results, not just activity.

00:59 Ken's AI Sandwich Framework

04:26 Erin's AI-Powered Book Series

07:10 Interview with Rebecca Shaddix

08:24 Rebecca on Acceptable Mistakes in AI Implementation

17:44 AI's Impact on Product Marketing

23:30 Balancing AI Training and Deep Research

28:41 AI Tools and Budget Constraints

30:32 Navigating the Rapid Evolution of AI in Business

30:59 Balancing Risk and Reward in AI Tool Selection

32:44 Effective Team Collaboration and AI Integration

37:08 Building Trust in AI Insights

45:15 The Future of Product Marketing

54:13 Lightning Round and Final Thoughts

Quote of the Episode:
“Trust in AI starts with transparency and ends with collaboration. Bring your teams in early, and let them own the process.” – Rebecca Shaddix

🎧 What You’ll Learn:

  • How to Make (the Right) Acceptable Mistakes:
    Rebecca’s “acceptable mistakes” framework—why defining what you won’t optimize is the move that unlocks true speed and clarity for GTM leaders.
  • Experiments Without Strategy Are Chaos:
    Why most teams run too many experiments and how to build a ruthless prioritization model that gets buy-in before the test.
  • The Real Role of AI in Product Marketing:
    How AI gives PMMs “junior analyst superpowers” but why human discernment, critical thinking, and cross-functional trust still win the day.
  • Segmentation, ICP, and the New Power User:
    How machine learning is uncovering hidden patterns in the middle of your user base (not just among your superfans)—and why most marketers overweight the wrong signals.
  • Building Trust in AI-Generated Insights:
    Rebecca’s battle-tested approach to cross-functional buy-in, demystifying black box outputs, and making AI actionable across the org.
  • Budgeting for AI When Cash Is Tight:
    The no-BS guide to picking AI tools (hint: treat it like every other investment—hypothesis, use case, ROI) and why you should always start manual.

🧠 Next-Level Insights:

  • The difference between motion and momentum in modern marketing—why activity ≠ impact
  • Why the “blank page” problem is now dead for good (and why that changes who wins in marketing teams)
  • How to democratize AI experimentation without losing control—or trust
  • The hidden risk: Over-relying on your top users for feedback and missing the 10x opportunity in the “middle layer”
Action Steps
  • Audit your own “acceptable mistakes.” What are you over-optimizing that doesn’t matter?
  • Try running a single, ruthlessly prioritized experiment—get buy-in, define the problem, THEN launch
  • Empower your team to bring AI wins (and failures) to the table—share the learning
  • Stop listening only to your power users. Find what the “middle” is doing and why.

Resources Mentioned:

Stay tuned for more FutureCraft episodes at futurecraftai.media

Liked this episode? Rate us on Spotify/Apple, share with a forward-thinking marketer, or DM us with what you want to hear next. Let’s keep crafting the future of GTM, together.

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