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This was originally recorded on 4 April 2025.

Christian Heiens is co-host of Making the Argument with Nick Freitas. He also does other shows with Nick Freitas.

We discuss the book _Revolt of the Elites_ by Christopher Lasch. We discuss how Lasch predicted over 30 years that America's elites would hate middle America. We also discuss the financial system of the world and why the USA will be the last nation to collapse.

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