Andy Salo is a longtime climber with roots in Niagara Glen, The Gunks, Rumney and most recently, Rifle. We’ll reminisce about bouldering at The Glen, and then dive into a wide ranging conversation about climbing with small children, how mentors and partners affect your climbing journey, fostering an inclusive climbing culture that makes space for people of all skill levels, and the role that younger and older climbers have within the climbing community.

Plus, we’ll tackle the great debate about climbing grades: Should they be changed or updated? And if so - when, how and why?

Check out Andy in Instagram at @andywsalo

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