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In this episode we dive into the ap between standardized tests and experiments, trying to figure out (a) is there a difference and (b) if there is, could not understanding the difference quietly erode safety. With guest David Morrisset (Queensland University), we unpack furnace ratings that read like time but aren’t, cladding classifications that were never meant for façades, and the infamous bird-strike test that shows how any standard bakes in choices and consequences. The throughline: context rules everything.
We talk plainly about what tests actually deliver—repeatability, reproducibility, and comparability under fixed boundary conditions—and why that’s powerful but limited. Then we pivot to experiments: how to define a clear question, choose boundary conditions that matter, use standard apparatus for non-standard insights, and document deviations without pretending they’re compliant. We share stories from timber in furnaces to car park fires and design curves, showing when consistency beats a shaky chase for “realistic,” and when exploratory burns are the fastest way to find the unknowns that really drive risk.
If you’ve ever tried to drop a cone calorimeter value into a performance model, equated furnace minutes to evacuation time, or treated a single burn as gospel, this conversation will help you do this safely and prevent you from falling into some well known caveats. You’ll leave with practical heuristics for reading test data without overreach, structuring experiments that answer narrow questions well, and communicating uncertainty so decision-makers understand what the numbers can and cannot promise.

Essential reading after this episode:

When chick hits the fan paper
The rise of Euroclass, A. Law et al.
The rise and rise of fire resistance, A. Law et al.

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Chapters

1. Setting Up The Big Question (00:00:00)

2. Why Fire Uses Tests And Experiments (00:03:38)

3. Defining Tests Versus Experiments (00:09:20)

4. Standard Furnace Minutes Aren’t Real Minutes (00:16:30)

5. Timber In Furnaces And Broken Assumptions (00:24:10)

6. Misapplied Benchmarks And Euroclass Limits (00:31:20)

7. Car Park Fires And The Benchmark Dilemma (00:38:20)

8. The Chicken And The Jet Engine Lesson (00:45:00)

9. Extracting Engineering Insight From Tests (00:51:00)

10. Designing Experiments With Purpose (00:58:00)

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