In this candid and wide-ranging conversation, Darrin sits down with his longtime friend Liam for an open, real-world discussion on money, mindset, and the struggle to find financial stability in today’s world.

Liam, who is not a financial expert, represents the average working adult—navigating life, bills, goals, and uncertainty. Through storytelling, humor, and vulnerability, the two explore everything from childhood money beliefs to current financial pressures, touching on the emotional side of money and how each person's journey is different.

The central message?

Even though it may be more challenging than ever, anyone can take steps to become financially secure—with the right mindset and practical tools.

It’s a grounded, relatable episode that reminds listeners that financial progress isn’t about being perfect—it’s about being real and taking the next best step.