Katrina Butler is a certified social impact consultant and a restorative justice facilitator. She is also the author of a book written for children of incarcerated parents. Katrina is a resilient woman who transforms life’s adversities into opportunities that inspire others. She believes in paying it forward by advocating for second chances, trauma-informed care, alternative sentencing and giving voice to those individuals let down by society.

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Some of our fierce topics today:

[02:30] I was one (incarcerated parent) that was not lucky enough to have regular visits from my children, or even regular phone calls from my children because they had to take care of themselves. When I left, my 18-year-old daughter got custody of my three younger underage children and they were just trying to make it through life the same way I was on the inside.

[05:58] (My book) I took it from my lived experience, but it was just put in my heart to make the character a little boy and him losing his father. So it's about the initial shock of a child losing their parent. The mother is upset. He's saying how his house is just so quiet now, void of the father's presence. He doesn't want to play with his friends. And then in talking to one of his close friends, he finds she has a secret too.

[09:13] I left them at a very important part of their life. I missed my youngest daughter's graduation and that hurt me. Especially when I heard her during a phone conversation. She says, Mom, I never thought my graduation would be this way… And yeah, they are incarcerated in their own prison as well with dealing with their own emotions trying to figure things out without the parent there.

[00:10:32] trauma comes out in bits and pieces here and there as things happen or things are triggered.

[00:12:32] I took my very last check and incorporated my business, Different Souls of One Accord. I got the website, the logo, and it's been existing since. And I am a social impact, project consultant company where I collaborate with different nonprofits and I help build programs that focus on things that I believe will be instrumental to the successful re-entry for individuals. I also provide legal services for men on the inside as well.

[00:13:26] I use my lived experience to build programs, the infrastructure for programs that I know will communicate and speak the same language and support those coming home.

[00:19:54] It's okay to stand up and say, you know what, this doesn't feel good. This doesn't work for me. And you don't have to be ugly or rude about it.

About Katrina Butler:

Katrina Butler’s unwavering commitment to advocacy is deeply rooted in her strong spiritual beliefs. With the support of her network, family and close friends, she continues to uphold and promote her principles with integrity, compassion, and determination. Katrina firmly believes in the power of truth and the importance of acknowledging one’s roots. She is known to live by the words, “Never forget where you came from and stand on your truth no matter what.” It is only when we stand on our truth that we can foster personal growth and work toward the betterment of humanity.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Katrina Butler:

https://www.differentsouls1accord.com/
www.sofarsoclose.org

So far, So close: Children Coping with the Incarceration of their Loved Ones by Katrina McCutchen Butler

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