When a last-minute cancellation threatened Claws Out Part 4, Debra stepped in—and what followed was one of the most unfiltered, soul-baring conversations yet. In this impromptu stream, Leanna and Debra ditch the script and dive deep into their lived experiences with addiction, recovery, and the systems that shaped their journeys.
They unpack the stigma around CPS, challenging the myth that child protection is about tearing families apart. Instead, they speak to the reality: sometimes CPS is the only safety net when addiction takes over. They share raw stories of survival, grief, and the dangerous choices that come with living the lifestyle—like driving high, a decision many have made, but one that can end in tragedy.
This episode is about accountability, compassion, and the uncomfortable truths that come with recovery. It’s a reminder that healing isn’t linear, and sometimes the most powerful insights come when the mic is live and the heart is open.