In this deeply moving and eye-opening episode of Exploring Reality Maybe, we sit down with Natalia Greene—environmentalist, legal activist, and co-founder of the Global Alliance for the Rights of Nature (GARN). From the courtrooms of Ecuador to the international climate stage, Natalia has been a passionate voice for ecosystems, advocating for the legal recognition of nature as a living, rights-bearing entity.

Natalia shares her personal journey growing up in Ecuador, a country that made history in 2008 by becoming the first in the world to enshrine the Rights of Nature into its Constitution. She takes us behind the scenes of powerful courtroom battles, including a landmark case where a frog became the legal face of resistance against a mining company. Her stories are equal parts poetic and political, showcasing a global movement fighting to flip the script—from exploitation to interconnection.

Together, we explore the philosophical and legal frameworks that underpin the Rights of Nature movement. Natalia explains how indigenous worldviews and ecocentric legal systems offer a lifeline for humanity and biodiversity alike. With over 70 cases in Ecuador alone and growing recognition in more than 40 countries, the Rights of Nature is no longer a fringe idea—it's a global shift gaining legal, ethical, and spiritual momentum.

If you've ever wondered what it means to live in true harmony with the Earth—or how legal systems can be reimagined to protect what cannot speak for itself—this episode is a must-listen. Prepare to rethink your relationship with the planet, and maybe even adopt a river or a frog along the way.