Alan Lazaros On Social Courage, The “Out-” Playbook, And Building Your Next Level You Experience Over Expectation podcast

Alan Lazaros on Social Courage, the “Out-” Playbook, and Building Your Next Level You

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I invited Alan Lazaros on Experience Over Expectation because his story hits the heartbeat of this project: when life veers off script, you can either cling tighter to the plan—or you can build something truer.

At 26, Alan survived a car crash that forced a reckoning. He was already “successful” by the world’s measures, but the inner story didn’t match. That tension became fuel. Today he’s the founder/CEO of Next Level University, leading a global team and hosting a Top-100 podcast with 1M+ listens across 175+ countries. The work? Helping people pursue their version of success—not the one they were handed.

What we got into

My Founder Cycle (conceive → decide → resource → execute) and how many of us run that loop without naming it.
Alan’s “Out-” framework—a deceptively simple sequence: Outfocus, Outrisk, Outwork, Outlearn, Outgrow, Outskill, Outtool, Outlead, Outlast.
Social courage vs. the performance of success. Are we building reputations… or character?
Boundaries & belonging as you grow. How to find your “absolutely people” (and kindly release the “absolutely not”).
What to tell a 12-year-old about responsibility, humility, and belief.
The one question Alan asks himself constantly: Why?

“All great things come from people who take responsibility.” —Alan

Watch / Listen

YouTube: https://youtu.be/11ZvDQ2g3ls
Podcast: https://feeds.captivate.fm/experience-over-expectation/
Alan’s world: nextleveluniverse.com

Try this (a pocket exercise)

Name one place you’re performing for the plan.
Ask why (five times if you have to).
Replace the performance with one honest action that serves who you actually are.
Tiny moves count. They compound.

Book note

My book Experience Over Expectation arrives September 23, 2025. If the message resonates—letting go of rigid timelines and living on your terms—pre-orders are open at marymccorvey.com. Early readers help more than you know.

Pre-Order EOE E-Book

Thank you for being here—for the stories, the courage, and the curiosity to keep asking why. That’s how we grow.

With gratitude,

Mary

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