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I've attached the transcript from the John MacArthur interview. The Scripture, in my view, opposes his opening remarks. But the fascinating thing is how he comes back around to personal choices to live with love, humility, obedience, and perseverance. This can be a good starting place when talking with Calvinist friends.

MacArthur:

If I could lose my salvation?

I would.

Right?

If I could, I would, because I don't have the power to hold it.

How can we have assurance that we are saved?

Well, you can eliminate one thing for certain that can take your assurance, and that is the idea that you could lose your salvation.

That's a lot.

Salvation is forever.

Salvation is eternal.

There's nothing that can separate you from the love of Christ.

Jesus said in John 6, the gift of you will come to me, and I will lose none of them, but raise them at the last day.

Salvation is forever.

So if you are saved, it's forever.

That faith cannot fail because that faith is not your faith, that's a gift of God who's given it to you if hes to .

So you eliminate that if you get your theology, right, that salvation is forever.

So all you want to know is, is my salvation forever.

And here's how you know.

I think there are three tests and then a forthcoming.

Test number one is, what do you love?

What do you love?

If any man is in Christ, he's a new creation, old things pass away, new things come.

What are these new things?

I like to think of them as new affections.

So the first mark of a believer.

It's not perfect, but it's evident love.

What do you love?

You love the Lord?

You love His Word.

You, you don't love him like you should, and he used to be increased.

You don't love the word like you should, but you love those things.

You love the people of God.

You want to be with his people, you want to be in the church, you want to be a part of the worshiping group.

So, love is the first evidence of a transformed heart.

The second one is humility.

There's a sense in which you are aware of your sinfulness, and you never really get over this incredible grace that's been given to you to save you.

The third one is obedience.

It's not perfect obedience, but it's a longing in your heart to obey the Lord.

You do acknowledge him as Lord.

Do you want to obey.

So love, humility, and obedience.

And then the fourth thing is this, it's trials, it's what can your faith survive?

You know, people who say, well, I believe in the Lord, and something goes wrong in their life, and they walk out.

Well, that's not a saving faith.

That's not a faith that's a gift from God , because that lasts.

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