This week Andrew talks with Team USA swimming legend Katie Hoff. Katie is a 3x Olympic medalist, 8x world champion, & 3x world record holder. In this conversation, Andrew & Katie explore the paradoxical idea that all of our greatest strengths also come paired with a dark side — and how that dark side can be managed when we’re trying to reach our full potential. Katie also talks candidly about navigating mental health challenges and her decade-long journey after her competitive career ended to find something that lights her up as much as swimming once did. This conversation is raw, emotional, and a powerful glimpse behind-the-scenes at what it takes to reach the pinnacle of any craft.

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