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Expectations: What do we expect from ourselves and others as an Enneagram 5?

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Fives crave clarity, but expectations make everything fuzzy.

In this episode, we wrestle with how expectations shape our creative process, our friendships, and our self‑story—often without us noticing. We start with the behind‑the‑scenes saga of trying (for the third time!) to record this conversation, then follow the thread into dread before hitting “record,” unspoken agreements in friendship, and how TV taught many of us what relationships “should” look like. Along the way, we share small shifts that reduce spiral time and increase real connection.

IN THIS EPISODE:

  • When Expectations Jam Creativity – How pre‑loading a conversation with “it has to be great” creates dread, stalls energy, and makes us over‑analyze instead of talk.
  • Friendship Without Guesswork – The cost of unspoken expectations (e.g., slow replies, differing communication rhythms) and the relief of naming needs directly.
  • Seeing Yourself Through Someone Else’s Eyes – How imagining others’ perceptions fuels spirals—and simple checks to return to reality.
  • Independence Isn’t the Goal – Moving from “don’t burden anyone” to chosen interdependence: sharing burdens to build connection, not to outsource regulation.
  • TV-Trained Expectations – The West Wing, Friends, Scrubs, The O.C.—how pop culture scripts set unrealistic standards for friendship, family, and community.
  • Proximity and Belonging – Why neighbors and repeated contact create the “just walk in” ease so many Fives want—and how to cultivate it on purpose.
  • Comparison, Career, and Age – Spotting the Instagram version of other people’s lives, reframing late starts, and noticing what you actually prioritized.

LINKS & RESOURCES:
📩 Join the weekly newsletter: enneagramfive.com/newsletter
💬 Join the community: enneagramfive.com/community
🗒️ Full transcript and show notes: enneagramfive.com/54

JOIN THE CONVERSATION:
What expectation are you ready to drop this week, of yourself or someone else? Tell us what shifts when you name it in the community.

The Newsletter Built for Fives

🔹 Get weekly insights tailored for your overactive mind.
🔹 Practical strategies to stop overthinking and start engaging.
🔹 Growth, connection, and energy management—without the fluff.

👉 Sign up free at enneagramfive.com/newsletter.

***

JOIN THE FULLY FIVE ACCELERATOR (FFA):

Break free from observer mode with a proven growth framework and the weekly support of people who truly understand how your Five brain works.

🚀 ​See if you're ready for FFA

***

RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE:

➡️ #27: Subtypes

***

CONNECT:

📷 Connect on Instagram
🧵 Connect on Threads
💼 Connect on LinkedIn
📹 Subscribe on YouTube

***

SAY THANKS:

💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts
🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Recording Woes and Setting Expectations (00:00:00)

2. Reflecting on Past Attempts (00:01:45)

3. The Challenge of Starting Conversations (00:04:26)

4. Managing Expectations in Friendships (00:05:46)

5. Communication and Misunderstandings (00:08:31)

6. The Burden of Expectations (00:10:18)

7. The Importance of Sharing and Connection (00:23:06)

8. Revisiting The West Wing (00:24:30)

9. The Narcissistic Boss (00:25:06)

10. Social Anxiety at the Soccer Game (00:25:46)

11. TV's Unrealistic Expectations (00:26:35)

12. High School Dances vs. Reality (00:28:41)

13. Homeschooling and Feeling Different (00:28:57)

14. Awkward Teenage Experiences (00:30:34)

15. Friendships and Proximity (00:36:32)

16. Career Regrets and Insecurities (00:48:06)

17. Concluding Thoughts (00:52:33)

54 episodes

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Content provided by Cody Harris & Josiah Goff, Cody Harris, and Josiah Goff. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Cody Harris & Josiah Goff, Cody Harris, and Josiah Goff or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://podcastplayer.com/legal.

Fives crave clarity, but expectations make everything fuzzy.

In this episode, we wrestle with how expectations shape our creative process, our friendships, and our self‑story—often without us noticing. We start with the behind‑the‑scenes saga of trying (for the third time!) to record this conversation, then follow the thread into dread before hitting “record,” unspoken agreements in friendship, and how TV taught many of us what relationships “should” look like. Along the way, we share small shifts that reduce spiral time and increase real connection.

IN THIS EPISODE:

  • When Expectations Jam Creativity – How pre‑loading a conversation with “it has to be great” creates dread, stalls energy, and makes us over‑analyze instead of talk.
  • Friendship Without Guesswork – The cost of unspoken expectations (e.g., slow replies, differing communication rhythms) and the relief of naming needs directly.
  • Seeing Yourself Through Someone Else’s Eyes – How imagining others’ perceptions fuels spirals—and simple checks to return to reality.
  • Independence Isn’t the Goal – Moving from “don’t burden anyone” to chosen interdependence: sharing burdens to build connection, not to outsource regulation.
  • TV-Trained Expectations – The West Wing, Friends, Scrubs, The O.C.—how pop culture scripts set unrealistic standards for friendship, family, and community.
  • Proximity and Belonging – Why neighbors and repeated contact create the “just walk in” ease so many Fives want—and how to cultivate it on purpose.
  • Comparison, Career, and Age – Spotting the Instagram version of other people’s lives, reframing late starts, and noticing what you actually prioritized.

LINKS & RESOURCES:
📩 Join the weekly newsletter: enneagramfive.com/newsletter
💬 Join the community: enneagramfive.com/community
🗒️ Full transcript and show notes: enneagramfive.com/54

JOIN THE CONVERSATION:
What expectation are you ready to drop this week, of yourself or someone else? Tell us what shifts when you name it in the community.

The Newsletter Built for Fives

🔹 Get weekly insights tailored for your overactive mind.
🔹 Practical strategies to stop overthinking and start engaging.
🔹 Growth, connection, and energy management—without the fluff.

👉 Sign up free at enneagramfive.com/newsletter.

***

JOIN THE FULLY FIVE ACCELERATOR (FFA):

Break free from observer mode with a proven growth framework and the weekly support of people who truly understand how your Five brain works.

🚀 ​See if you're ready for FFA

***

RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE:

➡️ #27: Subtypes

***

CONNECT:

📷 Connect on Instagram
🧵 Connect on Threads
💼 Connect on LinkedIn
📹 Subscribe on YouTube

***

SAY THANKS:

💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts
🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Recording Woes and Setting Expectations (00:00:00)

2. Reflecting on Past Attempts (00:01:45)

3. The Challenge of Starting Conversations (00:04:26)

4. Managing Expectations in Friendships (00:05:46)

5. Communication and Misunderstandings (00:08:31)

6. The Burden of Expectations (00:10:18)

7. The Importance of Sharing and Connection (00:23:06)

8. Revisiting The West Wing (00:24:30)

9. The Narcissistic Boss (00:25:06)

10. Social Anxiety at the Soccer Game (00:25:46)

11. TV's Unrealistic Expectations (00:26:35)

12. High School Dances vs. Reality (00:28:41)

13. Homeschooling and Feeling Different (00:28:57)

14. Awkward Teenage Experiences (00:30:34)

15. Friendships and Proximity (00:36:32)

16. Career Regrets and Insecurities (00:48:06)

17. Concluding Thoughts (00:52:33)

54 episodes

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