Former undercover FBI agent and bestselling author Scott Payne returns in Part 2 of this jaw-dropping conversation with Steve and Colleen. In this episode, Scott recounts the harrowing details of infiltrating neo-Nazi accelerationist groups—including disturbing pagan rituals, foiled murder plots, and spiritual warfare in the darkest places imaginable. But through it all, his faith remained the anchor.

Colleen joins the conversation with powerful reflections on biblical masculinity, the battle between good and evil, and the call to be both lion and lamb in today’s culture.

💥 This is a raw, redemptive look at what it means to stand in the gap as a Christ follower in a broken world.

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Chapters

00:00 The Wild Hunt and Pagan Rituals

11:56 Infiltrating Extremist Groups

23:38 The Dark Side of Accelerationism

35:41 Spiritual Warfare and Redemption

47:22 Masculinity and the Church